Comments on: Should the Xbox 360 use Blu-ray? http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/ PS3 News and Views Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:37:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: PS3Blog.net : PlayStation 3 News and Views » Archive » 360 Could Get Blu-Ray Drive News Story From 1UP.com http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-886 Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:14:31 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-886 [...] In a not-so-surprising move (I’ve always maintained that the 360 should support Blu-ray), Microsoft has stated that they’re open to releasing an external Blu-ray drive for the 360 if it wins the disc format war. [...] […] In a not-so-surprising move (I’ve always maintained that the 360 should support Blu-ray), Microsoft has stated that they’re open to releasing an external Blu-ray drive for the 360 if it wins the disc format war. […]

]]> by: HDBlog.net » Blog Archive » Xbox 360 games will never use HD-DVD http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-418 Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:24:00 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-418 [...] I proposed a long time ago that Microsoft should Blu-ray in the XBox 360. Maybe Microsoft read my article and is thinking about it! [...] […] I proposed a long time ago that Microsoft should Blu-ray in the XBox 360. Maybe Microsoft read my article and is thinking about it! […]

]]> by: Veniex http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-239 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:07:25 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-239 Actually, they've developed blue ray drives that are pretty small (for laptops). check 'em out: http://www.blu-ray.com/images/ifa2005/panasonic_15.jpg here's the page with everything: http://www.blu-ray.com/ifa2005/ Actually, they’ve developed blue ray drives that are pretty small (for laptops).
check ‘em out:
http://www.blu-ray.com/images/ifa2005/panasonic_15.jpg

here’s the page with everything:
http://www.blu-ray.com/ifa2005/

]]> by: Henning http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-179 Sat, 13 Aug 2005 19:33:01 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-179 HD-DVD was never really a choice for launch. The question was always whether or not to add one later. "Later" would probably end up being at least a year later, because nobody puts out such a revision too close to launch. So, BD is a valid choice at that point. HD-DVD was never really a choice for launch. The question was always whether or not to add one later. “Later” would probably end up being at least a year later, because nobody puts out such a revision too close to launch. So, BD is a valid choice at that point.

]]> by: Elvis Ripley http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-178 Sat, 13 Aug 2005 18:37:35 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-178 The problem would be that if there were a Blu-Ray drive in the 360 it couldn't come out before Springtime or be as small as it is now because the only drives I have seen are fat. But if they added a drive later they don't really need to decide until later. And if they decide later, Blu-Ray will probably be the only choice as HD-DVD will probably choke on launch. It already has started its decline even before it has been released. The problem would be that if there were a Blu-Ray drive in the 360 it couldn’t come out before Springtime or be as small as it is now because the only drives I have seen are fat. But if they added a drive later they don’t really need to decide until later. And if they decide later, Blu-Ray will probably be the only choice as HD-DVD will probably choke on launch. It already has started its decline even before it has been released.

]]> by: Henning http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-173 Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:06:24 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-173 While what you said was true at one point, it is no longer the case. Blu-ray will support both MPEG 4 AVC and VC1, so HD-DVD will not have any advantage there. BD will support: Video <ul> MPEG-2 MPEG-4 AVC SMPTE VC-1 </ul> Audio <ul> LPCM Dolby® Digital Dolby Digital Plus Dolby Lossless DTS digital surround® DTS-HD® audio formats. </ul> See the PDF document linked to from this page: Link: <a href="http://www.blu-raydisc.com/">Blu-Ray Disc Association</a> - <a href="http://www.blu-raydisc.com/Section-13890/Index.html">Public Specifications</a> While what you said was true at one point, it is no longer the case. Blu-ray will support both MPEG 4 AVC and VC1, so HD-DVD will not have any advantage there. BD will support:

Video

    MPEG-2
    MPEG-4 AVC
    SMPTE VC-1

Audio

    LPCM
    Dolby® Digital
    Dolby Digital Plus
    Dolby Lossless
    DTS digital surround®
    DTS-HD® audio formats.

See the PDF document linked to from this page:

Link: Blu-Ray Disc Association - Public Specifications

]]> by: JL http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-172 Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:59:43 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-172 I found this online. The issue isn't data capacity, it is audio/video play time. Therefore, one has to examine the application layer of both competing formats. Blu-ray has made it clear that they are only supporting MPEG-2 as the video codec (at a data rate of 24 Mbps - the same as D-VHS). AOD (HD-DVD) will use a new high efficiency codec, specifically either H.264 or Windows Media 9, which can achieve a superior picture quality to Blu-ray at data rates of 10-12 Mbps. So what does this mean: It means that even though a dual layer AOD disc will be only 30 Gbytes (compared to Blu-ray's 50 Gbytes disc), the AOD disc will actually hold more audio/video playtime!! So why doesn't Blu-ray adopt a high efficiency codec as well ... that is a very good question ... one reason would be that the already released Blu-ray recorders support only MPEG-2 video - so if Blu-ray switches to a more advanced compression scheme future pre-recorded movie titles won't play on the current Blu-ray recorders. As an aside, you will noticed that the other Blu-ray companies have not released Blu-ray recorders and in fact are waiting until the application layer is finalized for Blu-ray first - although my sources say that Sony (who is the is the defacto head of the Blu-ray consortium) is holding the line on MPEG-2 video compression to the dismay of several of the other companies. There is much more to be said, but I have already written too much - I will check back in a couple weeks with an update. Yours Truly, The DVD Guru I found this online.

The issue isn’t data capacity, it is audio/video play time. Therefore, one has to examine the application layer of both competing formats. Blu-ray has made it clear that they are only supporting MPEG-2 as the video codec (at a data rate of 24 Mbps - the same as D-VHS). AOD (HD-DVD) will use a new high efficiency codec, specifically either H.264 or Windows Media 9, which can achieve a superior picture quality to Blu-ray at data rates of 10-12 Mbps.

So what does this mean: It means that even though a dual layer AOD disc will be only 30 Gbytes (compared to Blu-ray’s 50 Gbytes disc), the AOD disc will actually hold more audio/video playtime!! So why doesn’t Blu-ray adopt a high efficiency codec as well … that is a very good question … one reason would be that the already released Blu-ray recorders support only MPEG-2 video - so if Blu-ray switches to a more advanced compression scheme future pre-recorded movie titles won’t play on the current Blu-ray recorders. As an aside, you will noticed that the other Blu-ray companies have not released Blu-ray recorders and in fact are waiting until the application layer is finalized for Blu-ray first - although my sources say that Sony (who is the is the defacto head of the Blu-ray consortium) is holding the line on MPEG-2 video compression to the dismay of several of the other companies.

There is much more to be said, but I have already written too much - I will check back in a couple weeks with an update.

Yours Truly,

The DVD Guru

]]> by: Michael Sykes http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-171 Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:15:44 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/11/should-the-xbox-360-use-blu-ray/#comment-171 Technically, Microsoft software runs on all three of those companies (HP, Dell and Apple). Virtually every person I know with a Mac runs Microsoft Office. Of course you can also run Windows under Virtual PC (Microsoft also owns Virtual PC), but that's not quite as common. But I think your reason #3 for adopting Blu-Ray is the best. I wasn't of purchasing age during the VHS vs. Beta war so I mercifully got to avoid that one, and I am not looking forward to the HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray battle! Technically, Microsoft software runs on all three of those companies (HP, Dell and Apple). Virtually every person I know with a Mac runs Microsoft Office. Of course you can also run Windows under Virtual PC (Microsoft also owns Virtual PC), but that’s not quite as common.

But I think your reason #3 for adopting Blu-Ray is the best. I wasn’t of purchasing age during the VHS vs. Beta war so I mercifully got to avoid that one, and I am not looking forward to the HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray battle!

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