Comments on: Console War Questions http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/ PS3 News and Views Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:11:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Black Guy http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1112 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:09:49 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1112 The only reason Sony had a greater backing from developers last generation is because Sony had already established themselves in the game w/ PS1. By the time Xbox was ready, the PS brand had been on the market for about 5 years. Now that the Xbox is a proven brand, more developers r willing to devlop for the 360; it would be idiotic for them to simply ignore that market. PS3 will probably maintain its #1 position w/ more games, but it will not be consistent with what it had enjoyed in the past. The X360 will close the gap especially in America & Europe where the system is doing very well. Exclusive titles? If u haven't noticed, not too many 3rd party publisher/developers are keen on developing exclusive titles these days and Sony can only buy so much. With increased development costs, there r going to be many more games going multiplatform in order to maximize profit potential. It will primarly b the responsibility of the 1st / 2nd party publisher/developer to distiguish their respective systems. Will the PS3 eventually outperform the X360 on the technical front? Maybe, but iDon't think it will b a significant difference to matter. Recall that there was a noticable performance lag between the same title running on Genesis compared to the SNES, but the Genesis was still able to represent until Sega put their up their ass. It should also be considered that Sony is notorious for grossly exaggerating the performance claims of their products. Remember 1.5 million polys on PS1 or Toy Story running in realtime on PS2? I'm still laughing uncontrollably @ those who actually believed that. The only reason Sony had a greater backing from developers last generation is because Sony had already established themselves in the game w/ PS1. By the time Xbox was ready, the PS brand had been on the market for about 5 years. Now that the Xbox is a proven brand, more developers r willing to devlop for the 360; it would be idiotic for them to simply ignore that market. PS3 will probably maintain its #1 position w/ more games, but it will not be consistent with what it had enjoyed in the past. The X360 will close the gap especially in America & Europe where the system is doing very well.

Exclusive titles? If u haven’t noticed, not too many 3rd party publisher/developers are keen on developing exclusive titles these days and Sony can only buy so much. With increased development costs, there r going to be many more games going multiplatform in order to maximize profit potential. It will primarly b the responsibility of the 1st / 2nd party publisher/developer to distiguish their respective systems.

Will the PS3 eventually outperform the X360 on the technical front? Maybe, but iDon’t think it will b a significant difference to matter. Recall that there was a noticable performance lag between the same title running on Genesis compared to the SNES, but the Genesis was still able to represent until Sega put their up their ass. It should also be considered that Sony is notorious for grossly exaggerating the performance claims of their products. Remember 1.5 million polys on PS1 or Toy Story running in realtime on PS2? I’m still laughing uncontrollably @ those who actually believed that.

]]> by: Susan.S http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1107 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:35:57 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1107 Well most game publishers want to make their games run on all platforms reasonably well. Therefore, aside from exclusive titles, I think the quality of next gen visuals will only be as great as the weakest link. No one wants their game on Revolution to look like crud compared to the Xbox360 version. Or the 360 version to look bad compared to the PS3 one. No publisher wants to upset the user base.Nintendo's, Sony's, or Microsoft's. As always you run a great blog. I linked to you on my blog.http://playstation-love.blogspot.com/ Keep up the great work.I will mention you on my site whenever I can. Thanks. Well most game publishers want to make their games run on all platforms reasonably well. Therefore, aside from exclusive titles, I think the quality of next gen visuals will only be as great as the weakest link. No one wants their game on Revolution to look like crud compared to the Xbox360 version. Or the 360 version to look bad compared to the PS3 one. No publisher wants to upset the user base.Nintendo’s, Sony’s, or Microsoft’s. As always you run a great blog. I linked to you on my blog.http://playstation-love.blogspot.com/
Keep up the great work.I will mention you on my site whenever I can. Thanks.

]]> by: JeromeMorrow http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1099 Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:39:23 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1099 Yeah, I would have to agree, the PS3 should have the edge in power. I don't think it will be a great deal more, but I would find it hard to believe if the PS3 is less powerful or equal to the 360. Yeah, I would have to agree, the PS3 should have the edge in power. I don’t think it will be a great deal more, but I would find it hard to believe if the PS3 is less powerful or equal to the 360.

]]> by: Henning http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1098 Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:26:19 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1098 I think that the power of the RSX and the 360's graphics chips will be about the same. However, I believe that the Cell processor's physics capabilities will give the PS3 the edge in realism. I think that the power of the RSX and the 360’s graphics chips will be about the same. However, I believe that the Cell processor’s physics capabilities will give the PS3 the edge in realism.

]]> by: observer http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1097 Sat, 28 Jan 2006 03:05:25 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1097 You are surprisingly slightly pro-360 for a guy who runs a PS3 blog. You're trying to be calm and neutral which is good but I still would expect more pro-PS3 excitement from someone running a PS3 blog. I disagree with two points: - 360 and PS3 graphics will be the same? Of course, we don't know until it comes out, but I would expect that the PS3 would have a horsepower edge given that it's coming out later. - PS3 will only do as well as 360 in North America? I disagree for the same reason that the PS2 did a lot better than Xbox, even in North America: Content. Sony has a better roster of developers and much better exclusive content. The original Xbox got very few titles that weren't on PS2 or PC and based on announced titles, the 360 looks to be the same. The most anticipated titles of 2006 seem to have many PS3 exclusives but few 360 exclusives. One good example list: http://videogames.yahoo.com/ongoingfeature?eid=431017&page=0 You are surprisingly slightly pro-360 for a guy who runs a PS3 blog. You’re trying to be calm and neutral which is good but I still would expect more pro-PS3 excitement from someone running a PS3 blog.

I disagree with two points:

- 360 and PS3 graphics will be the same? Of course, we don’t know until it comes out, but I would expect that the PS3 would have a horsepower edge given that it’s coming out later.
- PS3 will only do as well as 360 in North America? I disagree for the same reason that the PS2 did a lot better than Xbox, even in North America: Content. Sony has a better roster of developers and much better exclusive content. The original Xbox got very few titles that weren’t on PS2 or PC and based on announced titles, the 360 looks to be the same. The most anticipated titles of 2006 seem to have many PS3 exclusives but few 360 exclusives. One good example list: http://videogames.yahoo.com/ongoingfeature?eid=431017&page=0

]]> by: Chemical http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1096 Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:53:16 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1096 I do not necesseraly agree that Nintendo is going for a more kid friendly audience. If anything they are aiming toward's a casual game audience. Though I doubt his numbers, Nolan Bushnell recently stated that at the height of the arcade boom 44 million people played video games. Today the number is closer to 20 million. I think its that "lost" demographic that Nintendo is trying to reach. People turned off by the complexity and the learning curve of todays games. Gamers who dont want to play shooters, or spend dozens of hours playing RPG's and MMOs. I am 30 have been playing games since that Atari days. Yet when Bushnell said that the first time he saw the playstation controller he was scared to death a part of me can relate. Maybe in the last 10-15 years or so games have been getting to bloated for their own good. Dont get me wrong, personally Halo 2 is my favorite game of all time, but I think I do understand what Nintendo is trying to do, and wish them the best of luck. The more successful they are the better the whole industry will be. If anything I hope more people can get into the gaming, its great fun, and by trying to reach a larger demographic games might get a good influx of much needed creativity. I do not necesseraly agree that Nintendo is going for a more kid friendly audience. If anything they are aiming toward’s a casual game audience. Though I doubt his numbers, Nolan Bushnell recently stated that at the height of the arcade boom 44 million people played video games. Today the number is closer to 20 million. I think its that “lost” demographic that Nintendo is trying to reach. People turned off by the complexity and the learning curve of todays games. Gamers who dont want to play shooters, or spend dozens of hours playing RPG’s and MMOs. I am 30 have been playing games since that Atari days. Yet when Bushnell said that the first time he saw the playstation controller he was scared to death a part of me can relate. Maybe in the last 10-15 years or so games have been getting to bloated for their own good. Dont get me wrong, personally Halo 2 is my favorite game of all time, but I think I do understand what Nintendo is trying to do, and wish them the best of luck. The more successful they are the better the whole industry will be. If anything I hope more people can get into the gaming, its great fun, and by trying to reach a larger demographic games might get a good influx of much needed creativity.

]]> by: Jordan http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1095 Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:31:39 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1095 Nice predictions! Here are mine 1. The install base is a huge issue. Games have a limited shelf life (we all want whats new), so third-party publishers will want to wait until there are enough systems out there. I suspect many 360 games are near-ready but delayed to sell more on immediate release. 2. Of course PS3 will sell more than PS2!!! Not because of technology, but because of globalization. 1 Billion people in China and India are emerging from poverty and entering the middle-class... they will require entertainment. 3. I think 360 is doing very poorly. I am more excited about xbox titles! (I can't believe I won't be able to play Black). 4. $400 PS3 is fine, with inflation its actually modest. But I expect Sony to add more TIVO type of functionality (120GB hard drive, cable-card, etc) making the average system $600+... not including PSP 1.5 for portable viewing. I wonder how long until Sony releases a PS3 with a BD-Recorder and the Toshiba Super-Capanion Cell chip for massive parallel HD recording. I know the PSX was unsuccuessful, (ahead of its time) but if they can include or liscense tivo and BD-R, it is a very attractive package. I like my Scientific Atlanta (Rogers) PVR, but I would ditch it in a second for the chance to archive my favorites on BD. Nice predictions!

Here are mine

1. The install base is a huge issue. Games have a limited shelf life (we all want whats new), so third-party publishers will want to wait until there are enough systems out there. I suspect many 360 games are near-ready but delayed to sell more on immediate release.

2. Of course PS3 will sell more than PS2!!! Not because of technology, but because of globalization. 1 Billion people in China and India are emerging from poverty and entering the middle-class… they will require entertainment.

3. I think 360 is doing very poorly. I am more excited about xbox titles! (I can’t believe I won’t be able to play Black).

4. $400 PS3 is fine, with inflation its actually modest. But I expect Sony to add more TIVO type of functionality (120GB hard drive, cable-card, etc) making the average system $600+… not including PSP 1.5 for portable viewing.

I wonder how long until Sony releases a PS3 with a BD-Recorder and the Toshiba Super-Capanion Cell chip for massive parallel HD recording. I know the PSX was unsuccuessful, (ahead of its time) but if they can include or liscense tivo and BD-R, it is a very attractive package.

I like my Scientific Atlanta (Rogers) PVR, but I would ditch it in a second for the chance to archive my favorites on BD.

]]> by: Black Guy http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1088 Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:23:08 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1088 Henning - I'm shocked! iAlways labeled u as a Sony fanboy but... Just joking, those are really great responses. They were well thought out and professional. iDon't think u underestimated Revo at all. iAgree w/ u that iDon't c Revo moving in on PS3 or X360. It will probably find its own niche but iJust don't c it appealing to too many mature gamers. For the last 2 generations, Nintendo has been loosing it and now they r taking a huge gamble w/ the Revo; if it doesn't pan out, Nintendo will might have some problems. As for the PS3 being the most successful again, chances r it will. MS is trying to cater to the Japanese preferences of RPGs and whatever else but it still may not b enough. iCertaintly hope they do better cuz competition is better 4 everyone in the long run and many X360 owners would like to enjoy some of the Japanese developed titles for the beautiful X360. Even if the X360 finishes third in Japan, it has sufficient traction elsewhere to still do great and compete @ stronger position than Xbox 1. Henning - I’m shocked! iAlways labeled u as a Sony fanboy but… Just joking, those are really great responses. They were well thought out and professional.

iDon’t think u underestimated Revo at all. iAgree w/ u that iDon’t c Revo moving in on PS3 or X360. It will probably find its own niche but iJust don’t c it appealing to too many mature gamers. For the last 2 generations, Nintendo has been loosing it and now they r taking a huge gamble w/ the Revo; if it doesn’t pan out, Nintendo will might have some problems.

As for the PS3 being the most successful again, chances r it will. MS is trying to cater to the Japanese preferences of RPGs and whatever else but it still may not b enough. iCertaintly hope they do better cuz competition is better 4 everyone in the long run and many X360 owners would like to enjoy some of the Japanese developed titles for the beautiful X360. Even if the X360 finishes third in Japan, it has sufficient traction elsewhere to still do great and compete @ stronger position than Xbox 1.

]]> by: JeromeMorrow http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1069 Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:53:41 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2006/01/27/console-war-questions/#comment-1069 Bravo Henning. Excellent predictions for the next-gen. Although I do think you are underestimating the Revolution. Nintendo does admittedly make more toned down games, which some people call kiddy. But the Gamecube did not have the greatest 3rd party support, where as the Revolution seems to be sparking the creative minds of many developers. Bravo Henning. Excellent predictions for the next-gen. Although I do think you are underestimating the Revolution. Nintendo does admittedly make more toned down games, which some people call kiddy. But the Gamecube did not have the greatest 3rd party support, where as the Revolution seems to be sparking the creative minds of many developers.

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