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Here are two reactions to Sony’s use of motion-sensor in it’s new controller. First up Nintendo super legend Shigeru Miyamoto speaking to the Edmonton Sun:

“It’s kind of what always seems to happen. But the fact that they looked at what we were doing and decided it was a good path is kind of flattering, it kind of reinforces in our minds that we’re doing the right thing. What they’ve done is just take your standard controller and add in this motion-sensing device that’s similar to what we did back on the Game Boy Color many years ago. Maybe if they were to completely copy and go with a remote and a nunchuk and two motion sensors, I might be a little more concerned. But I don’t think they’re anywhere close to that.”

Next up is Peter Moore formerly of SEGA & now under the pay roll of Bill Gates:

“At Microsoft we did the same controller six years ago – most people remember that,” Moore said. “The gamers’ response was muted at best. We remember it being applicable to flying games in particular and some driving games but overall there was somewhat of a collective yawn from the gaming community about the motion sensing technology.”

“The motion sensing, particularly at the sacrifice of force feedback – I’m not even sure that’s a good trade off in itself.”

Microsoft’s corporate VP also dismissed suggestions that motion sensing actually provided PS3 with an advantage over Xbox 360, giving developers a new opportunity to explore.

“I don’t think it’s a huge issue. I’m less worried that somehow people are going to ignore a 10 million unit head start because they want to do a game with motion control,” he insisted.

Right, on one hand you have the respectful views of a true gaming legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, who views Sony’s use of motion-sensor technology as a compliment. On the other hand you have the dismissive & arrogant views of Peter Moore who epitomises everything that is disliked about his employers Microsoft. 10m unit head start? What’s he been smoking?!

We’ll see what the like of Hideo Kojima & other developers have in mind for utilising motion-sensor in future games.

Man I intensely dislike Peter Moore & his smug face!

Edmonton Sun – Shigeru Miyamoto Lowdown With A Legend

Eurogamer – Peter Moore Interview

  • lol, some of your post really are comical.

  • Gary

    Glad you find it amusing.

    😉

    Care to share with me what’s so amusing?

  • I really cant say, how much i despise Mr Moore…

    That’s Microsofts way to say:”We know you’re better, but…”… GOD I HATE ALL THAT managorial (does THAT make any sense at all??) skirmish!!

    10 Mio.? He must have had some REALLY GOOD SHIT!!

    Wikipedia tells me this… “Units sold 22 million shipped (2005)” about the first XBox… Hmm.. 4Yrs in market and about double the number of what the 360 shall have in a quarter of THAT time, with a HIGHER pricetag…

    Tell me, are MS’s managers so smug, that they are willing to lie in everybodys face with a smile (gawd i hate moores face at times)??

    I would REALLY like to see MS to fall flat on their faces when the PS3 hits the shelves and the XBox sales tumble to zero… REALLY!

    I have no respect whatsoever left for MS… My laptop already switched to linux (work with linux, its faster!!) and my desktop is soon to follow! No VistDRM for me! No 360 for me either…

    I cant say Sony did everything right, but eventually they do it mostly right (Homebrew on PS3 anyone… glad i have a 1.5 PSP).

    Now, lets recapitulate (does THAT make sense??)… MS is frightened of the PS3 (who wouldnt be in the same buisness??) so they stab first… But the PS3 will bite back WITH A VENGENCE!! It IS more powerfull (cpu wise at least) and will (hopefully) support all my PS2 games OOTB.

    So my rant is over… sorry for my bad english… i’m pissed, tired AND german!!

  • Martin Hansen

    I don’t get it, why are they dragging their sidewinder controller into this discussion. Sure it had motion sensor in it, but it was not supported with a lot of games and after this many years we should think technology should have advanced a bit more, concerning sesitivity and acceleration detection.

    When developers know that there will be one of these with EVERY console, then they can support it. And the PS3 will sell millions. How can you compare that to their sidewinder? The hardware has to be widespread.

  • And PC’s arent widespread enough for you?

  • Gary

    I’d still like to know what you find comical about some of my posts Hiro?

  • Hiro

    I guess i just have a wierd sense of humour 😉

  • I totally disagree with your interpretation of moore;s comments

    first, moore can be smug because microsoft produced this exact product six years ago, now sony brings it out and calls it innovation.

    second, the tone of his interview is not at all being smug regarding consumers, he’s talking about game makers. The question was asked regarding the possibility people would ignore the 360 for ports becauase it doesn’t have motion sensing like the Wii and PS3, but thats nonsense because it will have a much greater installed base.

    ntohing smug about that, just facts.

  • Gary

    So they produced this same product six years ago & was it a success? It hasn’t been copied to death so that must mean no. Maybe he’s on the defensive because he’s afraid that Sony might actually make it work? Peter Moore is a smug s.o.b. in general.

  • how is he being defensive?

    Fact: sony has copied a six year old design of microsofts. That’s true right? He should be able to say it if its true.

    Fact: Microsoft’s main concern is getting their console out early and getting a large installed base before the ps3 comes out, and not including things like blu-ray, wifi or hastily added motion sensitive controllers. That’s true right? he should be able to say it if it is true.

    There is nothing actually “smug” about moore’s remarks, if you don’t like him for other fine, but this is really trying to paint the guy in a negative light when all he did was say the exact same thing he’s been saying for months.

  • Gary

    He’s on the defensive by slating Sony’s use of motion-sensor technology using the words “yawn” & saying that the loss of vibration will actually be a bigger problem.

    Compare what he says to Miyamoto who probably has more right to be pissed at Sony & he actually views it as a compliment but I guess MS are incapable of giving their major rival any compliments of sort.

    Why couldn’t he say something like “We tried that 6 years ago & it didn’t take off so it will be interesting to see if Sony can make the technology work” rather than dismissing it completely.

    When it comes to Nintendo however, who aren’t a major rival to MS, you will find PM kisses ass quite a bit.

  • What? How can you say miyamoto has more reason to be pisse,d when Sony ripped off microsofts exact design?

    It works in a compeltley different way than nintendo’s. Also, since when did Peter Moore have to be a proponent for Sony’s technology in order to avoid smugness?

    Where is your righteous indignation when Sony CEO’s are promising features that never materisalize, saying the word “imnnovation” when they are blatantly stealing ideas, and attempting to discredit their competitors designs before copying them (motion sensitive controller, unified online service, dual SKU…how far do I have to go?)

    He said there was a “yawn” referring to microsofts own product. Kojima already said he didn’t like the loss of rumble, is he a smug SOB too? If saying your own product was not well received is smugness then I guess I agree with you there. Unfortuantely, I’m pretty sure its the exact opposite.

    Apparently in your mind if Moore doesn’t compliment sony for copying old technology then he’s a smug SOB, and that is where our opinions differ. I don’t see how miyamoto saying he views it as a compliment (particularly when Moore has used those exact words in regards to sony’s copying of online, internatonal launch and dual sku strategy) is somehow less smug, he’s still assuming its copying. That seems pretty smug to me.

  • Hiro

    Mate, they are competitiors, Sony called the Xbox 360 the Xbox 1.5 and you expect him to be all friendly?

    Richard is right.

  • observer

    Motion sensing and innovative game controllers are certainly not new ideas. Off the top of my head, I can think of many: Nintendo punching glove, Sega Activator, EyeToy games detect human movement, many arcade games, and many “VR” headset games. Nintendo is definitely innovating and the Wii has the most unique and daring controller, but they aren’t inventing any fundamentally new technology and I don’t think it’s clear that Sony copied anything from them.

    Sony’s biggest innovation has been in cultivating more original titles. GTA3, Gran Turismo, God Of War, Guitar Hero, Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, Katamari Damacy, and others all built their reputation as Sony exclusives. Microsoft built a direct immitation of Gran Turismo, and poached titles such as GTA3 and Lumines, but Sony has a far better record for cultivating innovation.

  • Hmm, i’m gonna agree with Gary.
    Sony did not invent this motion sensitive technology, but they can say that they have inovated it if it’s true right? I mean if it’s true..
    And it probably is true, because i had that sidewinder and it totaly sucked.. I have great fate in Sony’s products. They sell quality.
    Microsoft is so unimaginative! If Nintendo had anounced this at E3 2005, all x360 controllers would have motion sensitivity. That’s the truth.

  • observer

    Smugness probably isn’t the right word, but Moore and Microsoft in general do use more hostile PR and smear tactics. It is corporate warfare, so I’m not saying they shouldn’t, but it does put some people off.

  • WonderSteve

    If I am Microsoft, I would be more worried about getting enough good exclusive from Japanese developers than saying useless PR stuff that nobody cares.

  • Gary

    To Richard: I’ve criticised Sony loads on here & I’ll even provide you with proof if you want & MS are world famous for discrediting their rivals, stealing & copying ideas etc the problem I have is the way they go about doing it.

    To Hiro: No I’m not expecting Moore to be friendly just show a little respect from time to time.

    I find Peter Moore a smug SOB in general. That’s just the way he comes across to me.

  • Hiro

    I’m sure he will show some respect when Sony show respect towards Microsoft, Peter Moore has countless times called Sony a great company.

    Thomas: Shhhhh

  • Gary

    Yeah but what exactly does he mean by that? Is he referring to Sony the technology giant creators of the Walkman, TV manufacturer etc or Sony creators of the PlayStation brand?

    I doubt it’s the latter.

  • Hiro

    He’s talking about Sony mate, its as if you have 2 standards, Sony dont have to show respect to Microsoft but Microsoft have to show respect to Sony.

  • Gary

    No it goes both ways. Just because he says “Sony is a great company” it doesn’t mean he’s praising Sony & the PlayStation brand. I’ve never said Sony don’t have to praise MS. I wrote not long ago calling Phil Harrison a hypocrite for slagging off MS’s two SKU 360 then promptly going & doing the same thing with the PS3.

  • Hiro

    Sony still don’t show any respect to Microsoft, so i don’t understand why you expect Microsoft to show it. At the end of the day they are competitors.

  • Gary

    Maybe not but they don’t go about business the way MS does. We’ll just have to agree to disagree.

    😉

  • Hiro

    I guess we’ll have to 😉

  • I never said microsoft and other companies don’t do the same in various industries.

    If you’re going to try and bring up antitrust lawsuits that have nothing to do with the gaming industry as reasons why you like Sony over microsoft then thats your choice, but it has nothing to do with this specific situation. I don’t like or dislike a company based on “how” they go about ripping off their competitiors, that is apparently where we differ.

    You specifically said moore was smug for using words like yawn, when moore was referring to his own company’s products. I don’t know why you’ve decided to make moore the subject of your dislike, but in this case it has no rational basis. Apparently because he’s not being a liar, hypocrite or otherwise we’ll have to settle for smug.

  • Gary

    Antitrust lawsuits?? 😕 Erm OK…..

    No I said, and I quote, “Man I intensely dislike Peter Moore & his smug face!” I didn’t say he was smug for specifically what he said about Sony’s use of motion-sensor. He comes across as a smug SOB & that’s just my opinion.

    I’m not expecting you to agree with me it’s just how I see him. Who can forget what he pulled when he announced GTA IV, the way he did it made people think it was a 360 exclusive when it wasn’t. Rockstar had to release a statement shortly after to make it clear it was coming to PS3 aswell.

  • Matt

    Both companies do very unethical things to promote their products. Peter moore pretty much does it all for MS while multiple leaders from Sony claim things that somehow vanish from all written record.

    Who cares? What we all want as gamers is:
    1) A great gaming experience.
    2) Competition between atleast 2 companies for the top spot. The closer they are to equal the better. A third company offering a different experience is unreal and an industry first.
    3) Exclusive games for each system that warrant a system purchase.

    I have been gaming since a 3 year old on the Magnavox Odyssey. Nintendo was great but Genesis made them better.

    The 360 is an awesome gaming machine. It is by far the best system I have ever owned. I would highly suggest picking one up if you can’t afford a PS3 right now.

    I look forward to the Wii this holiday season. I will eventually get a PS3 but not until it comes way down in price or their are 10 must have games on the PS3. I just can’t support a system being that expensive. Imagine what they will charge for the PS4 if they sell the PS3 out for a year? MS would follow the leader and up the price of Xbox 3.

    I was skeptical about the 360 at $399. It was worth it but not by much (not enough games, but XBLA was more fun than I thought). I was lucky to pick up my HDTV 2 days before it came which made the experience better. Their is no way the PS3 will be worth owning the first 6-12 months (how many great exclusive games can their be?). The games won’t be their and if their online system is not up then it will be a huge waste of money. You don’t need the PS3 to play PS2 games if your PS2 works fine right?

    I don’t know man, I love gaming but Sony is asking a ton from me and I won’t be their. They did this to themselves. I can only hope for poor sales and maybe they will drop the price $100. At $499 I will begin to think about it.

  • He didn’t make people think it was a 360 exclusive, he siad “with exclusive downloadable content on Xbox live”. Is he supposed to announce the PS3 version too?

    Microsoft had Unreal Tournament 2007 listed on thier E3 preess site as an Xbox 360 game. if it actually does come out on 360, will you blame sony for not announcing that?

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