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1up poses you a question… |

Is history repeating itself?

I must say, as a classically trained historian (:wink:), that I’ve never believed history repeats itself! Still that isn’t to say we cannot learn stuff from previous generations!

Click on to see what they’re talking about!

Anyway, the point of 1up’s article is to examine the common factors between the PS2 and PS3- in summary the similarities are:

  • Dreamcast and Xbox 360 were released a year before both, at a lower price, with “great games, eas[ier] development, and superior online service[s].”
  • Both offer a movie format at a cheaper price than the competition.
  • Unique/groundbreaking CPUs.
  • Both feature older hardware inside to allow backwards compatibility.
  • Both will launch in the US with only 400,000 machines.
  • Both have creepy ads.
  • Ridge Racer at launch.
  • Weak launch lineup, but much more expected in the next year.
  • Nintendo offering: ‘A smaller, cheaper “family friendly” console with a “focus on gameplay.” ‘
  • Microsoft offering: “better online, exclusives from Rare and third parties like Tecmo, Capcom and Ubisoft, and the highly anticipated Halo.”
  • Unique exterior designs.
  • A controller upgraded from the previous one, but keeping the same form.
  • A Gran Turismo tech demo using a previous model’s assets.
  • Ducks/Faces/Real-time Final Fantasy demos.
  • Metal Gear Solid is a showcase of system ability, as is the Getaway.
  • Europe gets left behind.
  • Exclusive: Virtua Fighter, Tekken and Final Fantasy.
  • Level 5 wowed gamers with RPGs at TGS.
  • Pushing non-traditional games.
  • Linux support.
  • Kutaragi-isms.
  • Importing/exporting legal issues.
  • 3-4 years until system potential will be reached.
  • High loses on consoles ($150-$200).
  • $600 price at launch (on ebay for PS2, for real on PS3).

They also explore 10 reasons the PS3 won’t repeat PS2’s success:

  • Cost
  • Lack of HDTVs
  • HD-DVD/Blu-ray “war”
  • PS2 Hyped vs. PS3 Hated.
  • GTA multi-format.
  • Vast PSOne sales vs. Slow PSP sales.
  • Stronger competition.
  • Resistance already bettered by Gears of War- nothing new at PS3 launch.
  • Online issues.
  • Arrogant when they shouldn’t be.

So, what do you think? I see some great points here, but I think it’s too early to call Sony’s online service. I also think many of the similarities do not count for much, but then I would! 😉

Over to you!

PS3: Is history repeating itself?

  • We won’t really know for sure how much the hatred for the PS3 extends until the actual purchase numbers for the year are in. Everything that’s being said about it so far is just that: words. What really determines popularity is sales.

    Second of all Gears of War is a title that has come out a year after the 360 launched and the PS3 hasn’t even made it to the US market yet! How can 1up possibly use this?

    I find 1up to be somewhat biased against the PS3. From thier videos to this list of arguments, its obvious that they aren’t really putting alot of stock in it at all and for no particular reason. I mean notice how they describe numerous similarities between the PS3 launch and the PS2 launch and then turn around and tell you why they think it will do worse than its predecessor. I mean come on!

  • 1UP’s reviews have been consistently lower than the average metacritic scores for ps3 games. Most major sites gave resistance 90 or above, 1UP brought up the rear with the ONLY score in the 80’s. Now that the Official Playstation Magazine (run by them, their publisher Ziff Davis), i would much rather go to PSM for a sony related magazine.

    It is notoriously known that they played and reviewed Gears of War before playing Resistance. In their video podcasts, they admit to this coloring their resistance review, even though its entirely unfiar to compare such different games with one being a 2nd gen, and the other being a launch title.

    I dont think neither GTA nor “Online issues” deserve their own bullet-point. So what is gta multiplatform? Its the first party that will decide who has the better library, and honestly there is more to look forward to that is sony first party, than there is to look for from microsoft. Most can only think of halo 3 and….. only halo 3. With the PS3, there is Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, the unnamed Naughty Dog game, not to mention exclusives like tekken 6, virtua fighter 5, mgs4, ffxiii, and devil may cry 4.

    Any site with a japanese ps3 can attest to the fact that sony is taking online seriously this time around. No obnoxious points system when purchasing items. All the necessary pieces are there its just a matter of it being supported.