Comments on: PS3 has resolution issues

by: Steeler

Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:32:54 +0000

No, there is no hit in FPS with the XBOX 360 doing 1080p. The hardware has always been capable of those reslutions. MS has had that “upgrade” up their sleeve from the start. Many think on purpose knowing the PS3 would do 1080p. At any rate, how could Sony mess this up? Many of the older CRT’s and Projection HDTV were wither 480p/1080i or 480p/720p. Remember that hardware manufacturers were all debating which was better. A huge percentage of HDTVs currently in home will be affected. One of my TV’s is in that boat. My newer one is not but I didn’t want to hook it up to that TV. I don’t see how Sony can fix this aside from giving everyone a scaler. In this case a firmware upgrade won’t help. FRICK FRICK FRICK.

by: Ahmad Dawood

Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:42:15 +0000

I think that upscailing gonna consume/exhust the system resources (CELL, RAM.. etc). many folks are sugesting that XBOX 360′ s upscaling to 1080p feature gonna make a drop in the FPS rtio.

by: Henning

Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:35:39 +0000

If you connect by component, you must tell the PS3 what resolution to put out.

If you connect by HDMI, then a handshake occurs. I don’t know how the handshake interacts with your settings. I assume that if you try to force a resolution the display doesn’t support, it won’t be allowed. Unlike component, where the PS3 would just put it out anyway and the TV would just have to deal with it.

by: Robert

Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:40:25 +0000

If you connect by component cables how could the PS3 know what resolution your TV supports. I believe my TV accepts 720p and 1080i but can only display either 540p or 1080i. It must accpet it oterwise how could I see HDABC isn’t that 720p?

So is this only an issue when connected by DVI-HDMI and the handshake with the set says it only accepts 1080i. Does anyone own such a set and how do they watch HDABC even over component?

by: PJ

Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:50:51 +0000

This is a very big deal. I think the outcry/bad PR on this will be big enough that this will be one of Sony’s first firmware fixes.

If MS can upgrade their resolution through firmware, Sony surely can too, right?

by: Segitz

Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:28:07 +0000

The upscaling with the Xbox games within the 360 works afaik different.

If you take a look at PCSX with PetesOGL plugin, you can render internally higher than the original resolution…

I think, the 360 does the same, but I am just speculating here (because the picture quality difference is TOO big, for just being upscaled. If the original game is rendered in 480P then upscaled, there is NO MORE fidelity in the picture!)

Thank god my TV is 720P

In Europe (at least Germany) there is NO CRT which is HD READY as of yet (except one, which bears this award, which it may not, because its highest resolution is 640 lines and it must bei 720), so no problem for us here… Maybe some strange LCD or Plasma of the early builds have problems, but I doubt that!

Sadly but good for us, HDTVs were introduced pretty late in Europe, hence we dont have this problem, as HD READY forbids such things from the ground up… Ok, NTSC is much WORSE than PAL, so I can understand that the Japs and US forced HD earlier…

by: Henning

Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:22:13 +0000

This is a big deal. Up until now there were few Sony blunders that I really thought were really serious. But this one is serious.

When I first read this I had a small panic attack. I have an older HDTV set, which displays everything at 1080i or 540p. But thinking about it I realized that yes indeed, my set does accept 720p. Whew! Bullet dodged, hmmm. Or did I?

If I connect my PS3 to my HDTV with an HDMI-DVI cable, like I was planning to, what is going to happen in the handshake? The TV will tell my PS3 that it does 1080i. So the PS3 will not know that my set accepts 720p, and downconvert to 480p. Maybe. The handshake might also include something like “I do 1080i but also accept 720p”. But I have no idea. I guess I won’t know until I hook up my PS3.

If this is a problem, I’ll have to use component video cables instead of HDMI/DVI. Which would suck.

I’m upset that Sony would blunder like this. They should know better!

by: nekosaur

Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:38:34 +0000

“its not a problem for Europe as we only have 720p HDTV’s”

uhh, yeaah..
i don’t know where you live but in sweden we’ve got more than just 720p HDTVs

by: Rich

Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:13:49 +0000

Older CRT HDTV’s do 1080i but not 720p. its not a problem for Europe as we only have 720p HDTV’s.

by: Tom

Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:13:48 +0000

Yep, particularly older CRT based sets by the sounds of it. If you live in Europe though I think that all TVs that display “HD Ready” must support both 720p and 1080i. Now all we need is the console!