Comments on: Rainbow Six: WTF? http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:17:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mothra http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-43831 Mothra Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:49:30 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-43831 Splinter Cell: Double Agent was released to the PS3 and roundly condemned as a terrible port. i see two possible explanations for the delay of Rainbow Six Vegas and GRAW2: 1. Ubisoft know these are bad ports, so are delaying both games until the months with the fewest PS3 releases. That way, demand will be so high (especially for people waiting since December '06), people will rush out and buy it before reading any reviews. 2. Ubisoft realise that bad word spreads quickly and deep cynicism about their forthcoming ports spreads even quicker. They're therefore holding onto this game until it's at least as good as the Xbox 360 version, if not slightly better. Which do you think is more likely? I'm betting on scenario 1. Splinter Cell: Double Agent was released to the PS3 and roundly condemned as a terrible port. i see two possible explanations for the delay of Rainbow Six Vegas and GRAW2:

1. Ubisoft know these are bad ports, so are delaying both games until the months with the fewest PS3 releases. That way, demand will be so high (especially for people waiting since December ’06), people will rush out and buy it before reading any reviews.

2. Ubisoft realise that bad word spreads quickly and deep cynicism about their forthcoming ports spreads even quicker. They’re therefore holding onto this game until it’s at least as good as the Xbox 360 version, if not slightly better.

Which do you think is more likely? I’m betting on scenario 1.

]]> By: hollywooda http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-42485 hollywooda Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:50:12 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-42485 Both GRAW2 & RB6 have a huge online side to them, games developers dont see the PS3 as an online console, so they dont put as much importance on developing these type of games for the PS3. MS got in there early with LIVE & its paying off now, realising that online gaming is a massive part of the next gen was a very wise move on there part. I'm sure Assasin creed will be delived on time for PS3 as it's a single player game. Both GRAW2 & RB6 have a huge online side to them, games developers dont see the PS3 as an online console, so they dont put as much importance on developing these type of games for the PS3. MS got in there early with LIVE & its paying off now, realising that online gaming is a massive part of the next gen was a very wise move on there part. I’m sure Assasin creed will be delived on time for PS3 as it’s a single player game.

]]> By: MetalProxy http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-41208 MetalProxy Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:49:40 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-41208 This is why Iam so negative about Assasin's Creed. These people need to stop playing games with our games. All these strategic timed game releases dates are pathetic. If I didnt know any better a would say they are doing the delays on perpose, so the 360 could have an advantage. Time will tell... This is why Iam so negative about Assasin’s Creed. These people need to stop playing games with our games. All these strategic timed game releases dates are pathetic. If I didnt know any better a would say they are doing the delays on perpose, so the 360 could have an advantage. Time will tell…

]]> By: ben http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-41193 ben Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:17:11 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-41193 ubisoft need to step their game up. ubisoft need to step their game up.

]]> By: liar http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-41059 liar Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:31:53 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-41059 "You can’t get by with just flashy graphics and no substance." I think you meant the 360 :). Gears comes to mind. There are some fabulous "worthwhile" games already.. Titles like F1, Motorstorm, especially RFOM, Oblivion have significant substance. NHL 2K7 is very very good if you have ever played hockey. A lot more substance than 360 games like Gears. Still trying to get thru RFOM on superhuman. Online is simply unmatched by any game on any console. Period. I'll still be playing F1 years from now and still won't plumb the depths of this game..and it looks better than anything on any console - it has incredible graphics and significant substance. And I've never enjoyed F1 in my life before. There is no slide just people saying so. It already has badass games and is ahead of it's previous consoles - despite the Wii and 360 competition that didn't exist last time. I used to be an xbox and big (original) Halo fan..Halo 2 sucked..however the PS3 turned out to be just far too impressive so MS has lost business not gained it in our house. And we plan to get another PS3 we are so happy with it's capabilities and quality. This fall and xmas is important - not the summer months when people are vacationing. Relax. “You can’t get by with just flashy graphics and no substance.”

I think you meant the 360 :) . Gears comes to mind.

There are some fabulous “worthwhile” games already..

Titles like F1, Motorstorm, especially RFOM, Oblivion have significant substance. NHL 2K7 is very very good if you have ever played hockey. A lot more substance than 360 games like Gears. Still trying to get thru RFOM on superhuman. Online is simply unmatched by any game on any console. Period.

I’ll still be playing F1 years from now and still won’t plumb the depths of this game..and it looks better than anything on any console – it has incredible graphics and significant substance. And I’ve never enjoyed F1 in my life before.

There is no slide just people saying so. It already has badass games and is ahead of it’s previous consoles – despite the Wii and 360 competition that didn’t exist last time.

I used to be an xbox and big (original) Halo fan..Halo 2 sucked..however the PS3 turned out to be just far too impressive so MS has lost business not gained it in our house. And we plan to get another PS3 we are so happy with it’s capabilities and quality.

This fall and xmas is important – not the summer months when people are vacationing. Relax.

]]> By: Pc http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-41009 Pc Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:50:39 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-41009 What do you mean Shaun ??!! The PS3 is soon to have some freakin badass games !!! Plus, you can't forget about "Home" that will appear soon also. The PS3 is doing great and is actually doing better than the PS2 did early on in it's life. The PS3 cost either $499 or $599 then you also need a game and extra controller. That's alot of money and for the system to be selling better EARLY ON than the #1 system of all time did (PS2), that's means GREAT things !!! Just wait and there will be soo much great content and innovation with the PS3 that everybody will have one, even the people who don't have enough money, or even fanboys of other systems too !!!! What do you mean Shaun ??!! The PS3 is soon to have some freakin badass games !!! Plus, you can’t forget about “Home” that will appear soon also. The PS3 is doing great and is actually doing better than the PS2 did early on in it’s life. The PS3 cost either $499 or $599 then you also need a game and extra controller. That’s alot of money and for the system to be selling better EARLY ON than the #1 system of all time did (PS2), that’s means GREAT things !!! Just wait and there will be soo much great content and innovation with the PS3 that everybody will have one, even the people who don’t have enough money, or even fanboys of other systems too !!!!

]]> By: Shaun http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-40972 Shaun Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:29:35 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-40972 PS3 is really on the slide, I mean it's taking a pounding in the u.s market. They need to get it together and drop the price on the PS3, and start getting some worthwhile games, or they'll struggle the way nintendo struggle with the gamecube. You can't get by with just flashy graphics and no substance. It worries me how badly sony has been handling things lately, they are losing touch with their audience. PS3 is really on the slide, I mean it’s taking a pounding in the u.s market. They need to get it together and drop the price on the PS3, and start getting some worthwhile games, or they’ll struggle the way nintendo struggle with the gamecube. You can’t get by with just flashy graphics and no substance. It worries me how badly sony has been handling things lately, they are losing touch with their audience.

]]> By: Sporty http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-40903 Sporty Sun, 15 Apr 2007 05:58:10 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/04/14/rainbow-six-wtf/#comment-40903 I just read that Julian Eggebrecht article Segitz. Pretty interesting stuff. And it might work to PS3's advantage really. here's the meat of it. "You’ll have a hard time if you port without having a PS3 game in mind when you created the 360 version. That is where a lot of complaints are coming from. They created the 360 engine with a unified memory architecture in mind, with the embedded frame buffer with its advantages and disadvantages, and not thinking too much in early stages about multi-core. If you try to get that over to the PS3, you’re in for a bad surprise. The PS3 is all about streamlining about the two different memory pools. They are separate. You don’t have to do tiling because you don’t have an embedded frame buffer. All of these advantages of the PS3 turn into disadvantages if you don’t start making your game on the PS3. Hence the griping. If you create first on the PS3, it is pretty easy to port it to the 360. A lot of companies coming on board now will probably start on the PS3 and move to the 360. The lucky thing for us is we didn’t have to think about the 360 at all." Also talks about how Lair and Ratchet Will use extensive streaming to get a level a detail that was impossible before. Should make for interesting 2nd gen games. Now if only the rest of the first gen games stop getting delayed I just read that Julian Eggebrecht article Segitz. Pretty interesting stuff. And it might work to PS3′s advantage really. here’s the meat of it.

“You’ll have a hard time if you port without having a PS3 game in mind when you created the 360 version. That is where a lot of complaints are coming from. They created the 360 engine with a unified memory architecture in mind, with the embedded frame buffer with its advantages and disadvantages, and not thinking too much in early stages about multi-core. If you try to get that over to the PS3, you’re in for a bad surprise. The PS3 is all about streamlining about the two different memory pools. They are separate. You don’t have to do tiling because you don’t have an embedded frame buffer. All of these advantages of the PS3 turn into disadvantages if you don’t start making your game on the PS3. Hence the griping. If you create first on the PS3, it is pretty easy to port it to the 360. A lot of companies coming on board now will probably start on the PS3 and move to the 360. The lucky thing for us is we didn’t have to think about the 360 at all.”

Also talks about how Lair and Ratchet Will use extensive streaming to get a level a detail that was impossible before. Should make for interesting 2nd gen games.

Now if only the rest of the first gen games stop getting delayed

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