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They aren’t stupid. They give you a free service that people will get hooked on so that it becomes part of their daily gaming experience then BAMM!!!! they decide to charge you for it.

You go ahead and charge people for it Sony but I won’t be paying, so you can go to hell.

Until that day, I’ll keep enjoying PSN for free…

Warhawk is impressing the hell out of me.. 32 player is lag-free, draw distances are crazy and there is ALOT of stuff going on .. if that means waiting for more content, etec so be it. Getting movie media etc is available from many other places, but the on-line GAME PLAY the PSN is delivering is second to none as far as I can tell.

Gears was only 8 player and it’s my understanding Halo 3 will only be 16 max. Is there anything on Live that scales past that? It’s been around for 6 or 7 years now as well. 9 months for PSN - pretty impressed myself. From my perspective some of the stuff your talking about is for more frequent (and vocal) gamers - for the casual gamer like me it’s simply not as important as high-quality game play. And 32 CTF on a large map is just something that doesn’t seem to be possible on any other console at this point. Warhawk has changed my mind about how good and engrossing on-line can really be.

Microsoft has always been better and enforcing standards, they have been doing it for years with windows before xbox was even a thought. Sony on the other hand perhaps feels giving freedom to developers will cause less resistance and let them be more confortable in making content for their system. However, as many can attest, let a standard be soft, and developers take it as a license to be lazy. Sony just need to enforce some things across the board to ensure a consistent experience.

I dont see it being a far fetched claim that both PSN and XBL both have the basics. Its just that in the PSN’s case, developers dont feel pushed to adopt all of the features.

Another piece of news recently that ties to this story is Sony’s reshuffling of Sony Connect people to the PSN division. Since they announced a few months ago that Music, Television and Movies and VOD are coming to PSN this summer, we can put two and two together and see what they are preparing.

The forced features in Live did help get everything in place faster, and allow 3rd parties to just ignore adding them to PS3 versions. But soon online, voice chat and buddy lists should become standard since their games will be reviewed lower without them. Sony’s first party games will set the bar for the rest. With Sony working on and home, trophies, along with adding achievements and cross game chat, unified buddy lists. That should help close the gap.

I do with they would make the navigation faster on the PS Store though and add more content. If they can’t get demos and games out each week they should at least throw up PS1 games to fill the blanks.

I kinda wish Sony would host the servers for 3rd party games, anyone that’s played on Live and on Resistance or Motorstorm knows PSN can be smoother and less laggy online, but leaving 3rd parties to host can diminish Sony’s advantage there.

That said, it’s not really fair to bag on Sony. At least not yet. Their online content has only been up for a while and I’m quite sure given a bit more time they’ll more than catch up. The one major advantage Sony has over MS is the access to music and movies under the Sony name. Just imagine adding Spiderman in 1080P HD for download, I’d imagine people would go nuts for that. They also have some great features that the 360 can’t do. Like transferring PS1 games to the PSP. My girlfriend has been loving Crash Bandicoot and for $5 I’d say it’s a great deal.

The one thing both consoles have been great at (especially Sony) is putting out updates to get a lot more out of their consoles. Give Sony another 6 months to try and launch that video store and hopefully in the next year they’ll get there online chat/multiplayer stuff together and I’m sure we’ll quickly forget about this slow start. I’m sure things will get better with Home and just in time for when the PS3 starts getting some news games that haven’t already been released on other platforms.

Sony is behind the 360 in online and I don’t think anyone disagrees with that. The important thing is that they are taking the steps necessary to improve. It might not ever be Live but it doesn’t have to. It just has to be great enough that no one cares much about the differences. The PS4 will have the online worked out. Sony is going to learn a lot this round.

I watched the interview last night. Pretty good really, he confirmed that achievements are coming and trophies are only a part of that. In game XMB, cross game chat, better buddy list and better cross game settings for all games including PSP PS3 and more content.

Then said “when it comes down to the nuts and bolts” Live much different then PSN just more content right now.

Which is pretty much true. Most of your complaints aren’t PSN’s fault as much as the developers, and will all be worked out soon (”but not the next firmware update” on the In game XMB)