Comments on: Why is PS3 Linux GPU Access Gimped? http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/09/29/why-is-ps3-linux-gpu-access-gimped/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:45:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dartmerc http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/09/29/why-is-ps3-linux-gpu-access-gimped/#comment-84487 Dartmerc Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:34:25 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/09/29/why-is-ps3-linux-gpu-access-gimped/#comment-84487 Good point Segitz, one I completely overlooked. Guess it's the same as why coke put 5% pear juice in their post-mix (the stuff you get from maccas). Pear juice has almost no flavour, and once a drink hits 5% juice it's considered one, and import tax is lower on juice then softdrink. Good point Segitz, one I completely overlooked.
Guess it’s the same as why coke put 5% pear juice in their post-mix (the stuff you get from maccas).
Pear juice has almost no flavour, and once a drink hits 5% juice it’s considered one, and import tax is lower on juice then softdrink.

]]> By: Segitz http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/09/29/why-is-ps3-linux-gpu-access-gimped/#comment-84425 Segitz Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:32:27 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/09/29/why-is-ps3-linux-gpu-access-gimped/#comment-84425 No no and NO. A GPU kernel module would never ever lift PS3 linux into PS3 game possiblities. The xserver alone would need "so much" RAM, it would make it impossible to make games for in the scale of PS3 games. Think about it. Usual PC games need at least 1GB of RAM to run fluid on high settings. Yeah I know, Windows is a memory hog, but thing is, the PS3 linux community is slim at best, so releasing a game solely for that platform would not sell at all. 80% of all PS3 users aren't even aware of the possibility to install Linux on their PS3s let alone use Linux at all. The only problem I could see is that it opens some doors to exploits... But these can be remedied by firmware updates as usual. I rather think, Sony merely let's us install Linux to lower the import costs inside the EU... Sad but I think this was Sonys plan all along, so why use up money to make something possible that noone really uses? No no and NO.

A GPU kernel module would never ever lift PS3 linux into PS3 game possiblities. The xserver alone would need “so much” RAM, it would make it impossible to make games for in the scale of PS3 games. Think about it. Usual PC games need at least 1GB of RAM to run fluid on high settings. Yeah I know, Windows is a memory hog, but thing is, the PS3 linux community is slim at best, so releasing a game solely for that platform would not sell at all. 80% of all PS3 users aren’t even aware of the possibility to install Linux on their PS3s let alone use Linux at all.

The only problem I could see is that it opens some doors to exploits… But these can be remedied by firmware updates as usual.

I rather think, Sony merely let’s us install Linux to lower the import costs inside the EU… Sad but I think this was Sonys plan all along, so why use up money to make something possible that noone really uses?

]]> By: Dartmerc http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/09/29/why-is-ps3-linux-gpu-access-gimped/#comment-84385 Dartmerc Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:33:15 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/09/29/why-is-ps3-linux-gpu-access-gimped/#comment-84385 Darrin, I definitely agree. Also, how do I manage to replace words with other words so often (privacy instead of piracy).. I think Sony sees PC type piracy as a HUGE threat. I mean you could argue that a 22GB BluRay game is rather safe from torrent sharing, but even still, Its a problem that Sony would rather avoid. Already many developers are going multi-platform and using the xbox2 as their base platform (we can argue the reasons for this), and I think the threat of their hard earned work being stolen on PS3 could be just one more reason. I'm fairly anti-piracy (but i'm guilty at times), and I think the temptation of being able to rent a game or borrow it off a friend and copy it to my HDD is one that would overcome alot of PS3 owners. Already we're seeing forums dedicated to swapping PSN account details so that Sony's 5 console rule on downloaded content can be used to swap games between strangers. The risks of this are extremely high, and the most valuable game that could be gained this way is Tekken 5, so I could only imagine that an iso loader would get quite a bit of illegal use.. Darrin, I definitely agree. Also, how do I manage to replace words with other words so often (privacy instead of piracy)..

I think Sony sees PC type piracy as a HUGE threat. I mean you could argue that a 22GB BluRay game is rather safe from torrent sharing, but even still, Its a problem that Sony would rather avoid. Already many developers are going multi-platform and using the xbox2 as their base platform (we can argue the reasons for this), and I think the threat of their hard earned work being stolen on PS3 could be just one more reason.
I’m fairly anti-piracy (but i’m guilty at times), and I think the temptation of being able to rent a game or borrow it off a friend and copy it to my HDD is one that would overcome alot of PS3 owners.

Already we’re seeing forums dedicated to swapping PSN account details so that Sony’s 5 console rule on downloaded content can be used to swap games between strangers.
The risks of this are extremely high, and the most valuable game that could be gained this way is Tekken 5, so I could only imagine that an iso loader would get quite a bit of illegal use..

]]> By: Darrin http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/09/29/why-is-ps3-linux-gpu-access-gimped/#comment-84382 Darrin Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:26:39 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/09/29/why-is-ps3-linux-gpu-access-gimped/#comment-84382 arabek, I don't think the danger is hobbyist Linux developers, but the big third party companies: EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Square, Capcom, etc. What if they started targeting PS3 Linux users to avoid paying Sony platform fees? Other than that, I don't see the piracy threat. Sony doesn't care if PC type piracy moves to the PS3. Dartmerc, sure, right now Linux mode is mainly for novelty purposes and a few niche researchers. However, if they offer a model with increased RAM and full GPU, I think that would be a really compelling PC alternative. arabek, I don’t think the danger is hobbyist Linux developers, but the big third party companies: EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Square, Capcom, etc. What if they started targeting PS3 Linux users to avoid paying Sony platform fees?

Other than that, I don’t see the piracy threat. Sony doesn’t care if PC type piracy moves to the PS3.

Dartmerc, sure, right now Linux mode is mainly for novelty purposes and a few niche researchers. However, if they offer a model with increased RAM and full GPU, I think that would be a really compelling PC alternative.

]]> By: Dartmerc http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/09/29/why-is-ps3-linux-gpu-access-gimped/#comment-84377 Dartmerc Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:48:54 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/09/29/why-is-ps3-linux-gpu-access-gimped/#comment-84377 I honestly think a mixture of privacy and not important. Sony is said to be looking at ways to support homebrew in the future, and expansion of PS3s resources to linux is probably a way they'll do this. Currently, I think that PS3 running linux is a bit of a gimic, so people who run linux at home steer towards buying a PS3 rather then an xbox2. I honestly think a mixture of privacy and not important.
Sony is said to be looking at ways to support homebrew in the future, and expansion of PS3s resources to linux is probably a way they’ll do this.
Currently, I think that PS3 running linux is a bit of a gimic, so people who run linux at home steer towards buying a PS3 rather then an xbox2.

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