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Valve’s Gabe Newell bashes the PS3 | PS3Blog.net

Valve’s Gabe Newell bashes the PS3:

Edge: A while ago you said that you thought Sony should do a ‘do-over’ with PS3. Do you still think that?

GN: Absolutely. I think [PS3 is] a waste of everybody’s time. Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There’s nothing there that you’re going to apply to anything else. You’re not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they’ve created. I don’t think they’re going to make money off their box. I don’t think it’s a good solution

There is a very valid, logical piece to his statement. He could have just said,

We prefer to keep our main development teams focused on more standardized technologies and use specialized contractors to handle porting to proprietary architectures such as the PS3.

However, his statement was phrased in a highly emotional, negative, and political way.

On the bright side, I’ve noticed much less of this attitude towards the PS3 recently. Last year, this kind of attitude towards the PS3 was the norm, while today, it seems people are less tolerant of this type of blatantly negative and political attitudes.

So, does this affect anyone’s attitude towards the upcoming Half-Life title for the PS3?

  • ehandlr

    Gabe is a douche.. Straight up..no candy coating, just a plain idiot. He tried to backtrack today by saying he is having more problems with the 360 then the PS3.

    “Sony’s multicore approach is stupid”

    “MS 360’s multicore approach is awesome”

    …shutup….

  • Gabe’s a troll with a big salary, that’s all.

  • liar

    Really Gabe? And I suppose you don’t know about this either ..

    http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=21608

    Wow looks like the Cell an awful lot doesn’t it Gabe.

    What are you going to say then Gabe? Are you going to trash-talk the same issue when you get your middle-ware on “your” platform..or are you going to talk about how great it is..your precious Intel buddies are years behind the Cell Gabe..

    Maybe you want to stop the CELL architecture while your friends play catch up? Maybe Gabe? Maybe all those middleware tools that are maturing faster on the CELL are scaring you a bit since you’d like to have a bigger slice of that market on the PC for yourself.. maybe that’s why you don’t want people to invest in the CELL Gabe..just maybe?

  • Darrin

    Ease up guys.

    He and his team have accomplished some great things, that’s hard to deny. But that doesn’t validate or justify his personal technology preferences or politics.

    He is entitled to his own preferences. As a developer, I prefer to avoid Microsoft proprietary tools, even though I acknowledge some are pretty good, and he has the same right to prefer avoiding Sony proprietary technology. Of course, he should have said so in a more mature, positive manner, but whatever.

  • MeeToo

    Is this mean you’re not gonna play “The Orange Box” which scores higher than “Halo 3” and “BioShock”. (Source: metacritic.com)

    “Orange Box” is comming on December for PS3.
    October for X360?

  • liar

    I have no intention of putting a penny in the pocket of this jerk. Nada. Would you tip a waiter that constantly insulted you for the choice of shirt you were wearing or would you get up and leave the table and go to another restaurant .. it’s not like there isn’t a lot of other choices to spend money on.

  • Davey

    since I own both PS3 and XBOX 360, I bought the orange box for the 360 because I know this jack A$$ would give the PS# a crapy port and because they delayed it for the PS3. I feel like Im cheating on the PS3. I guess that I would have the better of the two.

  • ehandlr

    I have far too many fps games to buy that I actually put this one to the wayside. I’ve never been a big fan of it honestly.

  • MetalProxy

    That guy is NutZ, we shouldnt care what this fool has to say. You cant teach an old dog new tricks.

  • Emrah

    I like their games but Gabe Newell, as one of the most important people in the gaming industry, should have talked a little more elegantly, like Darrin states.

  • derrickgott007

    Sounds to me like Gabe is getting a little of that Microsoft money snuck his way. For someone to just blast a system like that shows some level of personal investment in the other rival system.

    Also, to say what he said shows a complete lack of faith in his team. If my team was developing for a more advanced architecture, I’d totally pump them up by saying they will make an amazing game on that architecture, not effectivly throw them under the bus like he did.

    Finally he showed his incompitence by saying that. There are gains to be had by investing in the cell and the PS3 gpu and architechture. Plus throw in the fact that every PS3 has a HDD and a Blu-ray drive and it should be blaringly obvious which system developers would have the most freedom on…..more storage on the hdd plus double the space on the disk…… Gabe proves he’s not only a douchebag but an idiot once and for all.

  • MeeToo

    Gabe Newell, an idiot for making a probable Game-Of-The-Year? More like he really knows what matter. If you can make a game that will score high at metacritic… yeah probably an idiot NOT.

  • Sporty

    Hist ability to lead his team into making a good game doesn’t make up for the fact he’s making a political statement that’s idiotic.

    It’s not as if he has experience developing on PS3. He’s made dumb comments before about consoles, seems he hates everything but Wii. He’s not a fan of pretty much anything except WinTel PCs.

    Must suck for him that PCs are moving to the same architecture as PS3.

  • derrickgott007

    Metoo makes no sense.

  • Emrah

    @sporty:
    “Must suck for him that PCs are moving to the same architecture as PS3.”. I don’t see this happening quite some time to come. Cell is very unique and peculiar, and x86 will rule the PC, and from a gpu point of view, PC’s are transforming into unified architectures.

    Or there’s something I am missing?

  • John

    Gabe Newell, the same Gabe that got hacked like a n00b during the HL source code incident?
    This guys knows as much about technology as GW Bush knows about diplomacy.

  • These dudes need to quit whinning like some girls… and just release the game HL2 for PS3… That way they can get started on HL3 and make some more money .. B***HES

  • Chemical O

    Political? I don’t understand how any of his statements are political, but I think that might be semantics. I will disagree with everyone, and no I’m not trying to troll; I have a ps2, cube, and a 360. I also have SONY stock and want them to succeed.

    I am glad he is open and honest with his opinions. Im tired of developers being coy and politically correct (sorry) when it comes to the next gen consoles. Would you guys rather have that typical, “Yes, there are some challenges, but it is nothing we can’t handle” answer. And come on, we are not babies, who cares how he says it. Are you really offended?

    I think it is a valid question to pose to SONY. Did they create a system which unnecessarily burdens developers? Did they get too arrogant, due to their own success? Why put themselves in this position? Now, that developers have an alternative (xbox 360), they dont have to focus only on SONY, the way they did last gen. and it shows, at least with some ports.

  • investing in the cell gives you no long term benefits?! he needs to tell IBM that, as they continue to pour more research into the cell architecture and build high-performance machines using the cell. get a grip, mr newell.

    meanwhile, i hope the ps3 port is ok… it’s being done by another company and I don’t know if anyone outside has even seen it!

  • As for his view that it wont be in anything else. IBM is already workng to use it in servers. Toshiba is working on getting it to function in appliances. So he is wrong on that point. On to the next.

    It’s always the PC developers that have sand in their vagina’s about sony hardware. Their biggest complaint? Its not PC hardware. John Carmack griped quit a bit before launch in a similar manner. The only reason they like the 360, is because its like developing for a pc thats a slave to gaming. Their complaints only make them sound lazy in my opinion. Tons of other developers have no problem seeing the potential and programming for the ps3. These PC developers that want everything to be just like a PC are just not wanting to learn anything new.

    Most other companies seem to not be having issues dealing with proprietary technology. These guys were some of the folks complaining about the PS2 back in the day, and obviously the industry quickly learned how to program for it. In fact, the PS3 is more standards compliant that the PS2 was as far as interfacing is concerned.

    If he hates learning new technology so much, go back to making games for 20,000 people with 3,000 gaming rigs. He and Carmack have always been like kids who wont go in the water because they touched it with their toe and thought it was cold. Meanwhile Carmack is beginning to see (as the all eventually do) that the PS3 is a viable platform, and is making an engine that works across all platforms (including pc and mac). Newell will still be there sticking his fingers in his ears going lalalala while the rest of the industry will take advantage of the opportunities and advantages the platform can provide.

  • D.Vader

    Gabe Newell is a ****ing asshole. Half Life 2 was delayed a few times because they couldn’t get it developed in a manner that wouldn’t require $1000 computer upgrade. Now HL2 ran pretty good on a Decent PC, but still would have required more of an investment then a PS3 to get the bells and whistles.

    F U GABE! Just make the ****ing games, let the gamers bitch.