Comments on: HDD and BDD Advantages http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/ PS3 News and Views Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:26:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Darrin http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92215 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:43:24 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92215 Segitz, that's roughly what I plan to do: - Get new PS3 HDD. Move PS3 stuff there, reformat existing 60GB for Linux - I have existing PC with DVD drive. I would happily buy another DVD drive if that will provide more relevant data. - Run some tests. After some searching, Bonnie++ sounds adequate. Cross platform. However, I won't know if this will provide adequate data until I've run it. Ideally I want to test: - Both sequential/random access speeds across a 4GB blu-ray and 4GB single layer DVD disc. - Both sequential/random access speeds across a 8GB blu-ray and 8GB dual layer DVD disc. Eventually, I plan to do this. But right now, I have much more important work tasks to be focused on and I really don't have the time to pick this up. Segitz, that’s roughly what I plan to do:
- Get new PS3 HDD. Move PS3 stuff there, reformat existing 60GB for Linux
- I have existing PC with DVD drive. I would happily buy another DVD drive if that will provide more relevant data.
- Run some tests. After some searching, Bonnie++ sounds adequate. Cross platform. However, I won’t know if this will provide adequate data until I’ve run it.

Ideally I want to test:
- Both sequential/random access speeds across a 4GB blu-ray and 4GB single layer DVD disc.
- Both sequential/random access speeds across a 8GB blu-ray and 8GB dual layer DVD disc.

Eventually, I plan to do this. But right now, I have much more important work tasks to be focused on and I really don’t have the time to pick this up.

]]> by: Segitz http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92202 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:22:10 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92202 Darrin, do it yourself... Since the 360s dvd drive is an off the shelf part, you can test nearly every other 16x DVD drive there is for a pc... (keep in mind, it is "common knowledge" that on dual layer discs, the read speed drops to 8x, which is 10.5mb/s MAX, i.e. at the outer edge) On the PS3, just install Linux and test it... And I guarantee you, that the sustained read speed (i.e. from start to finish) of a BD ROM is 9MB/s, if the disc is clean (and the lense too), not matter of dual layer or not. These differences are minute and, since all PS3s have an HDD, streaming off of it should be no problem either (Ridge Racer, a launch game did it!!) Darrin, do it yourself…

Since the 360s dvd drive is an off the shelf part, you can test nearly every other 16x DVD drive there is for a pc… (keep in mind, it is “common knowledge” that on dual layer discs, the read speed drops to 8x, which is 10.5mb/s MAX, i.e. at the outer edge)

On the PS3, just install Linux and test it… And I guarantee you, that the sustained read speed (i.e. from start to finish) of a BD ROM is 9MB/s, if the disc is clean (and the lense too), not matter of dual layer or not.

These differences are minute and, since all PS3s have an HDD, streaming off of it should be no problem either (Ridge Racer, a launch game did it!!)

]]> by: Bob Davey http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92179 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:49:14 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92179 Disk speed? That really doesnt matter, IMHO. A) I would take a slightly slower speed for over 15x more space(dual layer of course) B) Disk drive speeds will increase as time goes on. Ya, i know, we all have ps3s now with the first gen drives, but they will come out with newer models. People complained about the disk speed of the ps2 when that first came out and said we should stay with carts. How did that work out? Disk speed? That really doesnt matter, IMHO.
A) I would take a slightly slower speed for over 15x more space(dual layer of course)
B) Disk drive speeds will increase as time goes on. Ya, i know, we all have ps3s now with the first gen drives, but they will come out with newer models.

People complained about the disk speed of the ps2 when that first came out and said we should stay with carts. How did that work out?

]]> by: Darrin http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92174 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:59:43 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92174 I'd still like someone to do some objective real world disc speed tests that compare DVD vs BD. Rather than merely interview statements that rest on the resume of the speaker, I'd like to see hard repeatable test data. Eventually, I will give this a real shot if no one else does. Definitely nice quotes though. I’d still like someone to do some objective real world disc speed tests that compare DVD vs BD. Rather than merely interview statements that rest on the resume of the speaker, I’d like to see hard repeatable test data.

Eventually, I will give this a real shot if no one else does.

Definitely nice quotes though.

]]> by: Nathaniel http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92169 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:23:24 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92169 I think that this game is going to be massive. Naughty Dog have just steadily released info on this game quietly working away on a truly beautiful looking game. I think this is the dark horse of the holiday period and its going to sell PS3's by the bucket load, they know this and the steady trickle of info is only building the anticipation of this title to a maximum Lots of people around the office not usually bothered by the PS3 have taken notice of the price drop and commented on this game. It just shows that with the right developers taking their time and concentrating on one platform some great games can be created. Insomniac and Naughty Dog have a lot to proud of and both have stated that none of their current generation games would have been possible if it wasn't for the PS3. Once the dodge XBOX ports have finished and developers have more time to spend on the PS3 more great games will follow. I think that this game is going to be massive. Naughty Dog have just steadily released info on this game quietly working away on a truly beautiful looking game. I think this is the dark horse of the holiday period and its going to sell PS3’s by the bucket load, they know this and the steady trickle of info is only building the anticipation of this title to a maximum

Lots of people around the office not usually bothered by the PS3 have taken notice of the price drop and commented on this game. It just shows that with the right developers taking their time and concentrating on one platform some great games can be created. Insomniac and Naughty Dog have a lot to proud of and both have stated that none of their current generation games would have been possible if it wasn’t for the PS3.

Once the dodge XBOX ports have finished and developers have more time to spend on the PS3 more great games will follow.

]]> by: derrickgott007 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92166 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:08:30 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/10/30/hdd-and-bdd-advantages/#comment-92166 Finally a developer that speaks the truth about the PS3.... Hopefully other developers will follow their lead and pack their games to the gills since there is a HDD and a Blu-ray drive in EVERY PS3. Finally a developer that speaks the truth about the PS3…. Hopefully other developers will follow their lead and pack their games to the gills since there is a HDD and a Blu-ray drive in EVERY PS3.

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