ehandlr Says: November 7th, 2007 at 11:07 am still no in game xmb lol. thats gonna leave a mark.

Henning Says: November 7th, 2007 at 11:08 am Yes I was quite disappointed as well.

iFlash Says: November 7th, 2007 at 11:25 am Today I’ve lost faith is Sony being able to seriously take swing at the competition. You have to believe that someone on the PS3 OS team has played xbox360 and better yet has heard the outcries of all the fan. All I want to do is freakin text one of my friends to join me in a game and then not have to quit/use my phone to go back and tell him anything else.

Darrin Says: November 7th, 2007 at 11:30 am What do you specifically want from in-game XMB? Just in-game messaging access and friends list? Anything else? Most of the other XMB stuff, such as system settings, photo browser, etc aren’t very useful in game. Personally, I’m happy we finally get better playlist/organization features for all the various content you get. I can’t think of anything else I’m really dying to get from firmware. My other big wish list item is a music store with 5.1 HD quality audio without DRM (or just basic watermarking).

MrCow Says: November 7th, 2007 at 11:31 am whoa what a huge disappointment… ok custom background is nice .. but no xmb ingame .. i want to listen to my own music while playing!

Tosh Hatch Says: November 7th, 2007 at 11:43 am All the new features Remote Start - Energy savings: no need to leave your PS3 on all day while you periodically access it with your PSP during coffee breaks. Information Board - Scrolling headlines, handpicked by Sony for Sony. (Thankfully, you can disable the ticker until a later update, when Sony plans to let you import your own RSS feeds.) Themes - Create. Share. Love. Ain’t that what community is all about? [Joystiq’s pick for ‘Best New Feature’; customize backgrounds, icons and fonts with companion PC software; supported by PlayStation.com and PlayStation Store.] XMB Color Selector - Take control of the mood. Music & Photo Playlists - But no Music-Photo playlists. Additional Sorting Options - Now you can sort your music … (ready for this?) … by year! DualShock 3 support - A “last-gen” feature renewed (without a US release date). PLAYSTATION Network XMB group - Attention: PlayStation Store has moved to a new icon. Canon printer support - ‘Cause even game consoles need to print things. Joystiq

ehandlr Says: November 7th, 2007 at 11:44 am I wanted folders for Video more then anything honestly.

ehandlr Says: November 7th, 2007 at 11:46 am You gotta remember something though…Sony didn’t promise anything. They didn’t hint, comment, elude or anything. We set ourselves up for the let down.

John Says: November 7th, 2007 at 11:53 am Folders for videos, music AND games (plus the ability to manually order them). All in all, it’s not very impressive for a 2.0.

Pc Says: November 7th, 2007 at 12:18 pm Still no xmb access while playing a game to send a friend a game invite, or send a message, or play your music off your hdd while playing a game, but the PSP stuff will be awesome !! I have the new PSP slim and i love it, and now being able to turn on my ps3 and access content that’s on it while im out of town is freakin awesome !!! XMB access will come soon guys, don’t worry !!

Jason Says: November 7th, 2007 at 12:30 pm I agree with iFlash. What a joke. Who really cares about any of that stuff. 2.0?!? The only thing we really need is to be able to voip or text message people on our friends list to organize games, invites, etc. This should also function as voice support for games that don’t have it built in. But I’m convinced that most of Sony’s brass, including Phil Harrison and the retired PS3 architect Ken Kutaragi, fail to understand or appreciate this fundamental aspect to online gaming. Now I’m afraid that they haven’t left enough overhead in the system to accomplish it without breaking certain games. Oh well, I guess we just have to keep looking ahead. COD4 is so awesome that it’s hard to feel disappointed right now.

Segitz Says: November 7th, 2007 at 12:51 pm The PS Blog says not all features are announced just yet and that a video is to follow… Don’t hate just yet! Maybe in-game xmb is still coming

Tosh Hatch Says: November 7th, 2007 at 12:58 pm Video of 2.0 FW in action

derrickgott007 Says: November 7th, 2007 at 1:40 pm People need to calm down. Even if in game xmb was there they’d find something else to whine about. As long as I can still play awesome games like GT5 and Metal Gear Solid or Socom I could care less about in game Xmb access. Games have sound tracks for a reason….I can’t see playing Socom without the Socom music.

bobeotm Says: November 7th, 2007 at 1:47 pm People built 2.0 up to be something huge, not sony. It adds quite a bit, but for people to be all up in arms because they didnt add x feature or y feature is a bit absurd. Because they nevery said when this or that feature would be coming. Besides, even with in game XMB, what would one be doing? Pausing Uncharted to look at a photo slideshow? I think people have made in game XMB to me more than it is. I’ve seen video of Ingame XMB on some sites, i think must be ps3’s some developers are using. I am sure it will come eventually, but I think people are making a bigger deal out of it than it is. Whats so exciting about listening to a song immediately after pausing Heavenly Sword? The XMB is a means to an end anyway, its design to get you to the content you are looking for, its not a destination in and of itself. I can see some useful things like checking a message or something during a game and not having to go out, but beyond that, its been blown way out of proportions. The added features to remote play on the other hand seem mighty nice. Being able to turn the ps3 on and off (im assuming as long as the ps3 is in sleep mode) is a nice touch, especially when you might want to acess your song collection, or videos. The playstation network category is preparing for a portal that is coming down the pipe from a partnership between Sony and IGN. Based on what that is looking like, its going to be pretty nice.

Tosh Hatch Says: November 7th, 2007 at 1:48 pm I couldn’t agree more, I have tons of videos and it’s annoying to scroll threw them all. Themes should be fun to play with @ ehandlr Says: November 7th, 2007 at 11:44 am e I wanted folders for Video more then anything honestly.

Darrin Says: November 7th, 2007 at 1:50 pm I agree with Derrick. An in-game messaging/invite system is an important feature that they will need to add, but people are overreacting a little bit. I’ll be very happy to get music/photo play lists and game organization features.

Darrin Says: November 7th, 2007 at 1:55 pm bobeotm, people are repeating “in game XMB” like some kind of mantra, but what they really want is in-game messaging and friend invite functionality. I don’t think anyone cares about being able to access all the other XMB stuff in game or if the messging and friend invite features use a non-XMB interface.

Henning Says: November 7th, 2007 at 2:02 pm I care about the look. I want a consistent look and feel across the whole platform. That’s why I don’t like the new PSN icon - it doesn’t fit with the other icons in the XMB. Last night playing CoD4, I would have loved to go to the XMB and check people’s online status and messages. It makes total sense. That feature alone is worth more than all of the actual features in the 2.0 update. While it’s true that Sony didn’t promise us XMB access in 2.0, it’s also true that it’s a much-needed feature that gamers want above anything else. That said, I’m sure Sony’s working on it.

ehandlr Says: November 7th, 2007 at 2:10 pm Sony DID promise in game XMB (partial or otherwise) at some point and time. Just not necessarily for 2.0. So its confirmed that its coming..just as to when. I know it has to be something to do with the OS memory allocation.

Burten Says: November 7th, 2007 at 3:12 pm Allthough I really would like to see InGame-XMB and folders, I think this is a nice update. And I think people dont realize that RemotePlay is a huge advantage other consoles dont have. To all of you dissapointed users; relax, its just an update. There will be more..

Jason Says: November 7th, 2007 at 4:03 pm I guess what’s frustrating is that Sony is obviously devoting time and resources to develop all kinds of other features besides the basic social networking which should have been there from day one. The fact that they haven’t implemented it yet, one year after launch, suggests one of two things to me: Either they don’t perceive it as a high priority or it can’t be done with the system resources that are reserved. I hope I’m wrong and they’re just holding back for a REALLY big update when HOME launches. What are the chances of that do you think?

derrickgott007 Says: November 7th, 2007 at 4:07 pm Ok, I am here to spread the truth. I am a G.A.P Member (Gamers Advisory Panel) and on the GAP main page SONY is asking which feature we would like the most in a FUTURE update of the XMB…. In Game XMB is one of those, but Custom Soundtracks is a seperate answer. Sony NEVER said 2.0 would have the whole shebang….FANBOYS made that up. Not SONY. So before you go and dis SONY remember, you could get nothing at all and have to like it, because in laymans terms, Sony don’t owe you shit. (Please don’t delete it, that is the only explination that crosses all barriers and everyone understands) PSN is Free…. REMEMBER THAT… Stop the whining and the crying and ACCEPT what they give you. As long as the damn thing plays games and plays blu-rays and plays music and browses the internet and views photos and all that be happy with what you have, becuase SONY has never been REQUIERED to provide you with that from day one.

ehandlr Says: November 7th, 2007 at 4:27 pm /shakes fist furiously at you and you GAP membership…i want to be in GAP.

Sporty Says: November 7th, 2007 at 5:13 pm I rarely log into my GAP account since it’s not linked to my PSN account. But the reason most people expected something bigger for this update is the version number. Now a days it’s pretty common to use version numbering in a standard way. “The major number is increased when there are significant jumps in functionality, the minor number is incremented when only minor features or significant fixes have been added, and the revision number is incremented when minor bugs are fixed.” The list has too few features to constitute a major number increase, granted they can still have more they are keeping quite but from the looks of the list this shouldn’t be more then a minor increase. Not knocking it, I am just pointing out why people expected more from 2.0

Segitz Says: November 7th, 2007 at 5:35 pm I am with you Sporty… I mean, usually a major number means “yeah, we got THIS big new thing now”… And what “big” thing is there? Themes and (well I like it) Remote Starting… But those are MINOR updates. With the PSP, Sony adheres to this nomenclature (whoo yeah^^)… 1.5 was the first PAL PSP, 2.0 gave Web stuff, 2.5 gave flash, 3.0 gave Remote Play and the like… Every .5 update had big stuff in it. This is more likely 1.95, not 2.0, really. BUT, as I said before, the official blog states, there’s more to the update than we know now. Ajax support for the webbrowser would be cool, as well as WMV or AVI videos (remember, avi is NOT a codec but a container format, which does not cost a dime). Then there could be in-game messaging (not xmb access, but friendslist only?). PSEye stuff like good videochat et al. But still, most of these features (even if all implemented) don’t suggest a .0 update… All these features would not add, just enhance stuff… I mean, look at what all the 1.* brought… DLNA, PS2 upscaling, DVD upscaling… And those were “minor” updates… I really really think, Sony has something up its sleave… I dunno why, but they always have something there.

Rjcc Says: November 7th, 2007 at 6:03 pm I’m in GAP too, but I haven’t been to the page in a while. otherwise - man, wow. I had a feeling sony would disappoint with 2.0, but this is really just sad for anyone who doesn’t own a psp. whether we pay for psn or not isn’t really a concern to me, I’d pay for it, if it offered comparable features to xbox live. having things like dedicated servers is nice, but crossgame chat and invites comes in handy EVERY SINGLE TIME I turn the system on. a year later and all they can do is add playlists?

derrickgott007 Says: November 7th, 2007 at 6:27 pm This 2.0 update lays the framework for things to come. Keep that in mind. Things such as Eye content, video downloads, video uploads. And Rjcc, there is more than just playlists…Nice way to trivialize it.

Rjcc Says: November 7th, 2007 at 6:51 pm I did leave out changing color and brightness. the joy.

Sarlac Says: November 7th, 2007 at 9:30 pm oh…joy…

Sporty Says: November 7th, 2007 at 11:46 pm Well on the bright side the update was fast. Took less then 3 minutes to download and I like the new icon on XMB. The news ticker is a decent idea and call me crazy but PS store seems a lot more responsive now. Did they change the icon there? Seems like a bigger hand now. Didn’t play around too much since I was only looking on commercial breaks. Ill look around later tonight

bobeotm Says: November 8th, 2007 at 1:11 am GAP is pretty nice to be a part of. You occassionaly get beta invites, and you always get demos of games in the mail. I remember when I first joined, they sent be a Playstation branded book to hold ps2 games and the booklets in. I still use it when i travel. It also comes in hand in figuring out what sony is thinking about, because the surveys are always a bit telling about what they plan on doing. I still dont think in game messaging and xmb access is a big a deal as the people are making it out to be, sure it would be nice, but how many people really are going to really take advantage of it. Its like backwards compatability in alot of ways, so many say its a big deal, but in reality, no where near as many actually use it.

Sporty Says: November 8th, 2007 at 1:24 am I think the main reasons are custom soundtracks and messaging. Sony could do a quite and dirty work around on both till they get full XMB working in game. I only really use my 360 dash in game to check achievements progress. But it’s handy. I think Sony should get achievement like service up ASAP really. I know they are starting with Uncharted and their rewards. But retrofitting their system in to older games would be nice. I’m starting to become addicted to unlocking these stupid achievements. They really add to replay value.

derrickgott007 Says: November 8th, 2007 at 3:23 am You can now watch the movie trailers AS they download…. Streaming is now here.

Lars Says: November 8th, 2007 at 4:57 am JESUS AND THAT’S IT? Ok, some stuff is nice but who is really using it? I just wait for the codec upgrades, so that I can watch all media formats on my ps3. I really expected something of the new update, to make it more complete. But they just come with some fancy stuff nobody really cares about. I had my ps3 on the release and they really start to piss me off. Maybe this is the new way to attack Europe and the U.S., they keep pissing us off till we commit suicide… Greets from Europe, ……

Irishturtle Says: November 8th, 2007 at 5:30 am well I gotta say major disappointment…so much for listenig to the Fans who have shelved out 600,500,400 dollars over the last year where’s the respect Sony…as for all u spacers out there that said ” they didn’t promise us this and that” get with the program lads, look at what’s happen A free online network that sucks balls, ask the Call of Duty fans how they fell over the 360 fans A system software that got rushed out at launch…Incomplete Firmware 2.00 I’ve tested it, Remote Play is awsome idea LOVE IT but why dose my Ps3 keep on starting up by itself? Interesting question I’m sure will ask and hopefully dealt with ASAP. I’m a simple lad a, a sony fanboy at heart who also owns a Xbox360 who dosn’t ask for much, but CHRIST people all were asking for is a little XMB multitasking maybe just maybe a rough cut of HOME which last I heard was ALSO free, it really isn’t all that much to ask no is it… LISTEN TO US SONY Ps love the honesty Henning keep up the awsome work

Segitz Says: November 8th, 2007 at 6:11 am Oh shut it… “MEeehhh, I am soo disappointed”… In who? In Sony who gives you free Firmware updates? Or in yourself who believes every internet rumor there is… I can’t believe it.

fleakitten Says: November 8th, 2007 at 7:47 am /cheer Segitz. Sony didn’t promise anything with this update. It was all internet hype.

Gary Says: November 8th, 2007 at 8:15 am Yeah people made assumptions based on rumours. I personally don’t think XMB access will arrive until Home hits next year.

Henning Says: November 8th, 2007 at 8:30 am I don’t really care what Sony promised or not. What I care about is a feature that has been missing since the beginning, and that people have been clamouring for since the beginning, more than any other feature. And we still don’t have it.

Derrickgott007 Says: November 8th, 2007 at 9:38 am I love how idiots will cry about things that don’t work only because of their stupidity. The problem is due to port mapping and SONY already posted how to fix this. If you’d take one less minute whining and spend that time searching for the answer you’d know. Here is how to stop the random turn on issue. This is from SONY’S manuals. Depending on the type of router, the PS3™ system may be repeatedly started at fixed intervals if remote start is enabled. If a remote play connection is not established within a certain amount of time after the PS3™ system is started, the system will turn off automatically. A router is required to use remote start via the Internet. If the router supports UPnP, enable the router’s UPnP function. If the router does not support UPnP, you must set the router’s port forwarding feature to allow communication with the PS3™ system from the Internet. The port number that is used for remote play and remote start is TCP: 9293 or UDP: 9293. For information about setting this option, refer to the instructions supplied with the router. Port forwarding is a function for forwarding signals that arrive at a specific port (entrance) to another specified port (exit). This is also referred to as “port mapping” or “address conversion.” If the router’s IP address (global IP address) is changed when the PS3™ system is in standby mode, remote start will not be successful.

Tosh Hatch Says: November 8th, 2007 at 9:45 am New unknown features of FW 2.0 * Streaming of Trailers possible during download from the Playstation Store . * New Flash-Player update for the Internetbrowser. * Browser and Store faster (Loadingtime) * Demos, PS1 Games und Download Games can be sorted in folders * A new Video-Chat * [NOT TESTED RIGHT NOW] Support for CANON Printers

Anthony Says: November 8th, 2007 at 9:52 pm I install the Firmware 2.0 a couple of hours ago, and the only problem that I have with it. Was that I could not sign in for the playstation store. It said check you’re network connection. But when I use the web browser of the PS3 I dont have any problem entering web pages. It all started when I downloaded the latest Firmware. Does anyone have the same problem.

Evan Says: November 9th, 2007 at 1:50 am Hey Anthony, i had the same problem as you, but by now you probably figured out that if you let the ps3 sit for a bit, then try the ps store again, it should work, showing some more demos. If not….. then i dont know.

Anthony Says: November 10th, 2007 at 7:47 pm Thanks Evan, I just let it pass a day bye, and now is working fine. Thanks again I really appreciatte youre help.

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