Let’s just say that, if Apple too states their affiliation with BD at CES, then HDDVD is a goner!
Warner is THE moviehouse of the recent years (Matrix, LotR…) and their releases (300 on BD for example) are really good. Their menus could use some touch ups, but the rest is a ok
TOKYO, Jan. 4 /PRNewswire/ — Toshiba is quite surprised by Warner Bros.’ decision to abandon HD DVD in favor of Blu-ray, despite the fact that there are various contracts in place between our companies concerning the support of HD DVD. As central members of the DVD Forum, we have long maintained a close partnership with Warner Bros. We worked closely together to help standardize the first-generation DVD format as well as to define and shape HD DVD as its next-generation successor.
We were particularly disappointed that this decision was made in spite of the significant momentum HD DVD has gained in the US market as well as other regions in 2007. HD DVD players and PCs have outsold Blu-ray in the US market in 2007.
We will assess the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluate potential next steps. We remain firm in our belief that HD DVD is the format best suited to the wants and needs of the consumer.
#13 by Segitz on January 4th, 2008
[ 1450 Points ]
> HD DVD players and PCs have outsold Blu-ray in the US market in 2007.
Only, again, in their dreamworld, where PS3s ain’t BD players^^ And so what, even if only 25% of all PS3s ever play a BD movie, this is leaves the BD camp with 2000k units+ sold already^^ And just read over at AVS forums, they usually pan the PS3 as a VERY solid BD player!
But then again, who cares. I ordered The Simpsons Movie and the BD Remote from Amazon yesterday (had a 25€ gift certificate left) for nearly nothing^^ I am very content with my PS3 as a BD player, and probably, so are you^^
Hey Toshiba, I don’t think consistantly being outsold at margins as high as 7 to 1 is a gain in momentum. I don’t think there was any version of a film that was available in both blu-ray and HD-DVD where HD-DVD outsold Blu-Ray.
HD-DVD group always played with numbers like that.
They wont count PS3 as BD players unless they are talking attach rate. Yet they counted the 360 add on. When, in reality, studios only really care about disc sales which BD had always held over 60% of total sales and averaged 70% in the US/EU and 90% in JP.
New Line Cinema also followed Warner today as BD exclusive, but that’s the same as Dreamworks since it’s only a sister company
One major difference between Paramount defecting and Warner, is Paramount was a small fish in terms of content. BD only lost 32 titles, with Warner HD-DVD is losing nearly half it’s catalog
I’m delighted to hear this. In a little way I have helped BD too. I bought 5 or 6 BD releases during the holiday season. Everyone I know is getting pro PS3 spin from me. I’m not saying it works, but I’m helping anywhere I can.
The end of the format war is what will benifit us (the consumers) most. I just hope that paramount / universal (isn’t it the same?) and dreamworks switch over soon.
btw, bd on ps3 is very solid i have it combo’ed with a full hd tv and 5.1 surround (in all imaginable standards )
Wow…right before they announce 360 ultimate super duper poooper RROD proof version with built in HD-DVD. lol @ MS. They really should leave consoles forever. In a rush to beat Sony they put out a system that should have been recalled due to hardware problems. They charge you to simply play online, they overcharge for a 120 gb hdd and didn’t make hard drives standard. They backed HD-DVD just to counter Sony yet didn’t make the format internal within their system before the holiday rush, and now they’re releasing yet another sku. sheesh.
It’s gotta be depressing for MS and Toshiba to head into CES in 24 hours with all the headlines and cable news networks running “HD-DVD appears to be dead” and “Format war seems over” type stories.
Probably why they canceled all interviews and their conference.
Probably too soon to hear about for awhile, but Bill Hunt @ Digital Bits says insiders have Universal getting started in plans to support BD.
BTW Sl33py, Paramount and Universal aren’t the same. You might be thinking NBC/Universal and CBS/Paramount.
If MS’s announcement rumors are true, they must be thinking of pulling it. Probably not the best idea to roll out a new sku that’s more expensive, and has a built in format that died before the sku hit shelves
Great news. When is Microsoft going to announce the 360 Bluray player add-on?
BD was inevitable once MS didn’t add HDDVD into the elite version of the 360. If they had, this war would have gone the other way.
Back to enjoying Blade runner on Bluray.
Now to find out how quickly the Best Buys and Futureshops clear out the HDDVD sections and focus on BD. I expect some pretty shady sales guys trying to sell HDDVD kit this weekend telling everyone how great the system is.
Its just a matter of time now. seems the only reason Paramount and Universal havent gone Blu is because of exclusivty deals. Both definitely have movies i want on blu-ray. Transformers looked amazing on HD-DVD. Only Spielberg and Lucas arent part of the deal so im hoping to see Indiana Jones movies go Blu around the time the new movie hits theatres
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#1 by Tosh on January 4th, 2008 [ 87421 Points ]
R.I.P. HD-DVD
#2 by Segitz on January 4th, 2008 [ 1450 Points ]
Let’s just say that, if Apple too states their affiliation with BD at CES, then HDDVD is a goner!
Warner is THE moviehouse of the recent years (Matrix, LotR…) and their releases (300 on BD for example) are really good. Their menus could use some touch ups, but the rest is a ok
#3 by Tosh on January 4th, 2008 [ 87421 Points ]
I think I saw that Apple will have a dual drive. HD-DVD / Blu-ray.
But hopefully just it’s just a Blu-ray drive.
#4 by Eddie on January 4th, 2008 [ 37586 Points ]
all they have left is Paramount and a temporary exclusive contract with Universal.
#5 by Tosh on January 4th, 2008 [ 87421 Points ]
Lol, somebody posted this image at NeoGAF.
Perfect Image!
Oh, and here is the new support list:
BD
Warner Bros
Sony Pictures
20th Century Fox
Miramax
MGM
Lionsgate
Miramax/Dimension
HDDVD
Universal
Paramount Pictures
Dreamworks SKG
#6 by Paranoimia on January 4th, 2008
G.A.M.E O.V.E.R.!
#7 by Ryan(jpt) on January 4th, 2008
This could put a stop to the Tosh HD DVD 360 no? Waste of money if you don’t have much to use it for.
#8 by Eddie on January 4th, 2008 [ 37586 Points ]
Dreamworks is a subsidiary of paramount btw.
#9 by Annie on January 4th, 2008 [ 0 Points ]
Awesome.
Gary sent me a message about this and I was like wha…. ?
Good stuff guys.
#10 by Doodlepants on January 4th, 2008 [ 490 Points ]
Don’t forget that Paramount – Spielberg’s film are bluray
#11 by Mike on January 4th, 2008
So long, HD-DVD.
#12 by Tosh on January 4th, 2008 [ 87421 Points ]
Toshiba was surprised by warners move.
TOKYO, Jan. 4 /PRNewswire/ — Toshiba is quite surprised by Warner Bros.’ decision to abandon HD DVD in favor of Blu-ray, despite the fact that there are various contracts in place between our companies concerning the support of HD DVD. As central members of the DVD Forum, we have long maintained a close partnership with Warner Bros. We worked closely together to help standardize the first-generation DVD format as well as to define and shape HD DVD as its next-generation successor.
We were particularly disappointed that this decision was made in spite of the significant momentum HD DVD has gained in the US market as well as other regions in 2007. HD DVD players and PCs have outsold Blu-ray in the US market in 2007.
We will assess the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluate potential next steps. We remain firm in our belief that HD DVD is the format best suited to the wants and needs of the consumer.
Earthtimes.org
#13 by Segitz on January 4th, 2008 [ 1450 Points ]
> HD DVD players and PCs have outsold Blu-ray in the US market in 2007.
Only, again, in their dreamworld, where PS3s ain’t BD players^^ And so what, even if only 25% of all PS3s ever play a BD movie, this is leaves the BD camp with 2000k units+ sold already^^ And just read over at AVS forums, they usually pan the PS3 as a VERY solid BD player!
But then again, who cares. I ordered The Simpsons Movie and the BD Remote from Amazon yesterday (had a 25€ gift certificate left) for nearly nothing^^ I am very content with my PS3 as a BD player, and probably, so are you^^
#14 by Darrin on January 4th, 2008 [ 15187 Points ]
HD-DVD CES Event Cancelled. I was about to say that HD-DVD is done unless they have some ace up their sleeve. Looks like they don’t have that. wow.
http://wesleytech.com/ces-hd-dvd-event-canceled-due-to-warner-announcement/483/
#15 by derrickgott007 on January 4th, 2008
Hey Toshiba, I don’t think consistantly being outsold at margins as high as 7 to 1 is a gain in momentum. I don’t think there was any version of a film that was available in both blu-ray and HD-DVD where HD-DVD outsold Blu-Ray.
#16 by Sporty on January 5th, 2008 [ 95 Points ]
HD-DVD group always played with numbers like that.
They wont count PS3 as BD players unless they are talking attach rate. Yet they counted the 360 add on. When, in reality, studios only really care about disc sales which BD had always held over 60% of total sales and averaged 70% in the US/EU and 90% in JP.
New Line Cinema also followed Warner today as BD exclusive, but that’s the same as Dreamworks since it’s only a sister company
#17 by derrickgott007 on January 5th, 2008
New Line Cinema?? Hahaha…Great, now I can finally get that High Def version of Critters…hahahaha
#18 by derrickgott007 on January 5th, 2008
We just got an email which stated that the HD DVD group is canceling its CES press conference……
LMAO.
#19 by bunnyhero on January 5th, 2008 [ 1850 Points ]
wow.
the war may be over VERY soon.
huzzah!
#20 by Sporty on January 5th, 2008 [ 95 Points ]
Well HBO (and BBC since HBO distributes them in the US) also went along the BD route. Already mentioned New Line
http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6517192.html
One major difference between Paramount defecting and Warner, is Paramount was a small fish in terms of content. BD only lost 32 titles, with Warner HD-DVD is losing nearly half it’s catalog
#21 by SL33PY on January 5th, 2008
I’m delighted to hear this. In a little way I have helped BD too. I bought 5 or 6 BD releases during the holiday season. Everyone I know is getting pro PS3 spin from me. I’m not saying it works, but I’m helping anywhere I can.
The end of the format war is what will benifit us (the consumers) most. I just hope that paramount / universal (isn’t it the same?) and dreamworks switch over soon.
btw, bd on ps3 is very solid i have it combo’ed with a full hd tv and 5.1 surround (in all imaginable standards
)
#22 by LifEndz on January 5th, 2008
Wow…right before they announce 360 ultimate super duper poooper RROD proof version with built in HD-DVD. lol @ MS. They really should leave consoles forever. In a rush to beat Sony they put out a system that should have been recalled due to hardware problems. They charge you to simply play online, they overcharge for a 120 gb hdd and didn’t make hard drives standard. They backed HD-DVD just to counter Sony yet didn’t make the format internal within their system before the holiday rush, and now they’re releasing yet another sku. sheesh.
#23 by Sporty on January 5th, 2008 [ 95 Points ]
It’s gotta be depressing for MS and Toshiba to head into CES in 24 hours with all the headlines and cable news networks running “HD-DVD appears to be dead” and “Format war seems over” type stories.
Probably why they canceled all interviews and their conference.
Probably too soon to hear about for awhile, but Bill Hunt @ Digital Bits says insiders have Universal getting started in plans to support BD.
BTW Sl33py, Paramount and Universal aren’t the same. You might be thinking NBC/Universal and CBS/Paramount.
#24 by Sporty on January 5th, 2008 [ 95 Points ]
And LifEndz, it is kinda funny in a way.
If MS’s announcement rumors are true, they must be thinking of pulling it. Probably not the best idea to roll out a new sku that’s more expensive, and has a built in format that died before the sku hit shelves
#25 by mcloki on January 5th, 2008
Great news. When is Microsoft going to announce the 360 Bluray player add-on?
BD was inevitable once MS didn’t add HDDVD into the elite version of the 360. If they had, this war would have gone the other way.
Back to enjoying Blade runner on Bluray.
Now to find out how quickly the Best Buys and Futureshops clear out the HDDVD sections and focus on BD. I expect some pretty shady sales guys trying to sell HDDVD kit this weekend telling everyone how great the system is.
#26 by James on January 6th, 2008
Its just a matter of time now. seems the only reason Paramount and Universal havent gone Blu is because of exclusivty deals. Both definitely have movies i want on blu-ray. Transformers looked amazing on HD-DVD. Only Spielberg and Lucas arent part of the deal so im hoping to see Indiana Jones movies go Blu around the time the new movie hits theatres
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