Comments on: Gran Turismo Series Shipment Numbers http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/ PS3 News and Views Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:45:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: west coast ps3 http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136456 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:53:54 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136456 I remember being disappointed a few years ago when I hooked the PS2 up to my new flat panel and then trying out GT4. Sure it was 1080i but it had a horrible moire effect, and lots of jagged edges. The game actually looked better at low res, as the display would smooth it out. I fully completed GT3, however never bothered to finish GT4. At the moment the only racing game I’m playing a lot of is ridge racer for PS3. I do plan on getting GT5 prologue when it comes out. I remember being disappointed a few years ago when I hooked the PS2 up to my new flat panel and then trying out GT4. Sure it was 1080i but it had a horrible moire effect, and lots of jagged edges. The game actually looked better at low res, as the display would smooth it out.

I fully completed GT3, however never bothered to finish GT4. At the moment the only racing game I’m playing a lot of is ridge racer for PS3. I do plan on getting GT5 prologue when it comes out.

]]> by: bobeotm http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136352 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:19:22 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136352 I think by the time GT4 came out the interest that would have been there had kind of dissapeared. Part of it was due to the hefty delays of that game, basically 2 years. On top of shipping at a dead part of the year instead of making it in time for the previous holiday. So the extreme delays it received paired with the wierd release timing after the holidays and late in the system's life kind of make the shipments take a hit. The game is a far more bankable product than Forza. Forza sells well, but Gran Turismo games tend to have legs, and sell pretty consistently at a slow burn. Gran Turismo 5 will have no problems selling well, the question is, will people be willing to pay 40 dollars for prologue when its basically "a GT5 appetizer"? I think by the time GT4 came out the interest that would have been there had kind of dissapeared. Part of it was due to the hefty delays of that game, basically 2 years. On top of shipping at a dead part of the year instead of making it in time for the previous holiday. So the extreme delays it received paired with the wierd release timing after the holidays and late in the system’s life kind of make the shipments take a hit.

The game is a far more bankable product than Forza. Forza sells well, but Gran Turismo games tend to have legs, and sell pretty consistently at a slow burn. Gran Turismo 5 will have no problems selling well, the question is, will people be willing to pay 40 dollars for prologue when its basically “a GT5 appetizer”?

]]> by: SL33PY http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136239 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:46:12 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136239 I'm up for GT5 not the Prologue, only the full game. I’m up for GT5 not the Prologue, only the full game.

]]> by: Darrin http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136216 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:16:05 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136216 Richard, Forza 1 sold less than an eigth of Gran Turismo 4, which was the lowest selling in the GT series (excluding prologue and special editions) and less than a fourteenth of GT3. Forza 2 didn't sell much better. If Gran Turismo gamers are migrating to other games, it's definitely not Forza or GTR. Combined Forza/GTR sales are a mere rounding error next to any entry from the GT series, and the GT series isn't selling nearly as well as it used to in the U.S. I'm not trying to dismiss the genre, I just suspect that the outrageous popularity of the GT series in the U.S. during the GT1-3 time frame may have been a fad among car enthusiast types who don't normally play video games. Sales Data from vgchartz.com Forza 1 Sales: 1.01 Million Forza 2 Sales: 3.60 Million (this number is mostly bundle sales, when this game was included with all premium/elite 360 systems in Fall '07) Gran Turismo 1: 10.85m Gran Turismo 2: 9.37m Gran Turismo Concept 2001 Tokyo: 1.56m Gran Turismo 3: 14.87m Gran Turismo 4 Prologue: 1.36m Gran Turismo 4: 8.80 Million Richard, Forza 1 sold less than an eigth of Gran Turismo 4, which was the lowest selling in the GT series (excluding prologue and special editions) and less than a fourteenth of GT3. Forza 2 didn’t sell much better. If Gran Turismo gamers are migrating to other games, it’s definitely not Forza or GTR.

Combined Forza/GTR sales are a mere rounding error next to any entry from the GT series, and the GT series isn’t selling nearly as well as it used to in the U.S. I’m not trying to dismiss the genre, I just suspect that the outrageous popularity of the GT series in the U.S. during the GT1-3 time frame may have been a fad among car enthusiast types who don’t normally play video games.

Sales Data from vgchartz.com

Forza 1 Sales: 1.01 Million
Forza 2 Sales: 3.60 Million (this number is mostly bundle sales, when this game was included with all premium/elite 360 systems in Fall ‘07)

Gran Turismo 1: 10.85m
Gran Turismo 2: 9.37m
Gran Turismo Concept 2001 Tokyo: 1.56m
Gran Turismo 3: 14.87m
Gran Turismo 4 Prologue: 1.36m
Gran Turismo 4: 8.80 Million

]]> by: lena the thinker http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136186 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:52:02 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136186 In my analysis Europe appreciates GT game compared to others on the list. In my analysis Europe appreciates GT game compared to others on the list.

]]> by: Richard http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136180 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:10:17 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136180 car sims were a fad? GTR and forza didn't even exist until a few years ago, people just moved on form gran turismo because it didn't have the right features car sims were a fad? GTR and forza didn’t even exist until a few years ago, people just moved on form gran turismo because it didn’t have the right features

]]> by: Richard http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136179 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:09:09 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136179 What other racer had online? nfs was online midnight club was online rallisport 2 and pgr2 on xbox had online those are just the ones I can name off the top of my head. toca had online GT4 was a huge step backwards What other racer had online?

nfs was online
midnight club was online
rallisport 2 and pgr2 on xbox had online

those are just the ones I can name off the top of my head.

toca had online

GT4 was a huge step backwards

]]> by: Darrin http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136051 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:01:57 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136051 Anecdotally, I knew several car nuts who would normally never touch a game, that were blown away by GT 1+2 on the PS1. Obviously, everything about those games was completely crude by today's standards. By the time GT3 had come out, their interest had waned, and by 2005, when GT4 and more competition came out, they had completely moved on. I just think the car sims were somewhat of a fad in the 90's and early 00's. Anecdotally, I knew several car nuts who would normally never touch a game, that were blown away by GT 1+2 on the PS1. Obviously, everything about those games was completely crude by today’s standards. By the time GT3 had come out, their interest had waned, and by 2005, when GT4 and more competition came out, they had completely moved on.

I just think the car sims were somewhat of a fad in the 90’s and early 00’s.

]]> by: Segitz http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136050 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:52:56 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136050 What other racer, made in 2004/05 on PS2 had online racing?? I can't think of anyone that was worth the while, tbh^^ I preferred GT4 to 3, because it had much better tracks (Nordschleife is a beyotch though^^, having driven it in real life already too!) and nicer selection of cars. I find it quite interesting, that the sales numbers in Europe are quite stable, yet the other numbers are VERY fluctuating. I could have played GT3 again, when GT4 came out, but ... it is GT man, there's nothing you may miss with this game at all!! And yay, end of March, I will be playing GT5P before you yanks :P What other racer, made in 2004/05 on PS2 had online racing?? I can’t think of anyone that was worth the while, tbh^^

I preferred GT4 to 3, because it had much better tracks (Nordschleife is a beyotch though^^, having driven it in real life already too!) and nicer selection of cars.

I find it quite interesting, that the sales numbers in Europe are quite stable, yet the other numbers are VERY fluctuating. I could have played GT3 again, when GT4 came out, but … it is GT man, there’s nothing you may miss with this game at all!!

And yay, end of March, I will be playing GT5P before you yanks :P

]]> by: mcloki http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136049 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:49:24 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/2008/02/22/gran-turismo-series-shipment-numbers/#comment-136049 GT5 will be the first true HD car sim, so it will sell great. Then it will suffer from the same thing that's happening to Madden. How do you improve on a great game. You can't make the cars shinier. They can only make incremental changes. That's why I think you'll see tons of DLC for this game engine. and you won't see a GT6 till the next platform. But you'll see tons of downloadable tracks and tournaments. Does Rock Star need a new game engine or can they just keep the cash register ringing with new DLC songs every week? Same with Madden NExt year they should just sell the updated rosters for the 08 NFL teams. They won't, but they should. GT5 will be the first true HD car sim, so it will sell great. Then it will suffer from the same thing that’s happening to Madden. How do you improve on a great game. You can’t make the cars shinier. They can only make incremental changes. That’s why I think you’ll see tons of DLC for this game engine. and you won’t see a GT6 till the next platform. But you’ll see tons of downloadable tracks and tournaments.
Does Rock Star need a new game engine or can they just keep the cash register ringing with new DLC songs every week?
Same with Madden NExt year they should just sell the updated rosters for the 08 NFL teams. They won’t, but they should.

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