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Valve still hates the PS3 |

Valve was recently showing off their upcoming zombie shooter, Left 4 Dead. Currently, the game is slated for PC and 360, but not the PS3.

When asked about the PS3 version, Valve’s Doug Lombardi said:

“We’re not PS3 developers – we’re doing PC and 360 like with Orange Box. EA came to us and said ‘Wow, Orange box was an incredible project, can we do a PS3 version?'”

“If Left 4 Dead is big, then we may see a PS3 version later, or if and when we do a sequel, people may be more interested in that.”

OK, we get it. Valve hates the PS3 and doesn’t want to work with it. At least this time their public statements have a thin veneer of business rationale on top of their hatred.

What’s strange to me is that so many assume that developers are logical and choose their projects and target platforms for purely financial reasons and sales figures and market share percentages. If so, all developers would be developing for the exact same platform.

Remember not too long ago, Valve’s Gabe Newell, said that the PS3 was “a waste of everyone’s time” and:

“Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There’s nothing there that you’re going to apply to anything else. You’re not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they’ve created. I don’t think they’re going to make money off their box. I don’t think it’s a good solution.”

Which do you think: Cool, calm, strictly business decision making? Or hyper-opinionated developer?

  • Guess Valve won’t see my money any time soon…

    Even if my PC can easily run all their games, this attitude makes it impossible for me to even remotely consider buying another game from them.

  • Sporty

    It’s not like they would block a PS3 version, just don’t do it internally.

    Before Orange Box they didn’t do consoles at all. Gearbox and EA handled the ports before that and of course the PS3 version of orange box.

    Since they did the 360 orange box internally they already have the groundwork for PC/360 multiplatform work.

    I wouldn’t be too surprised if a PS3 port of L4D comes from Gearbox, EA or someone else in the future, if not o well. Enough games are coming and if someone wants to play L4D that bad they can get it on PC or 360.

  • Darrin

    Segitz, are you pirating Valve’s PC games? If you buy their games on PC, they still get your money.

    Personally, I have a high-spec PC, but I thought Half-Life and Portal were so wildly overrated, that I doubt I will be interested.

  • Mike

    I used to be a huge Valve fan but constant product delays and not being able to access the games I paid for on steam for an ENTIRE YEAR has turned me off from them completely as of late. I got orange box on PC and was not a fan of paying for two products I already owned, and on top of that I was not thrilled with either EP2 or Portal. I don’t buy anything directly through Steam any more since it is an unreliable mess.

    The amusing thing is how developers like Infinity Ward just shut the hell up, make their games run on every platform, and rake in the sales as a result. They’re smart enough to realize you have to lead with consoles these days, Valve still wants everything done through steam.

    The unfortunate part is that Valve and Epic have a good philosophy in terms of supporting their games with free content, but their inability to be competitive on the console FPS front has them getting trounced in sales by games that feature paid DLC. Even with Gears, Epic has to get into fights over the content being free because Microsoft is their publisher. Had Valve done a better job with developing and supporting TF2 on the consoles, it might have gotten a larger following.

    That said, if anybody wants an HL2 or EP1 gift through steam let me know. None of my friend play PC games anymore, thanks in large part to the attitudes of companies like Valve.

  • Sporty

    I wouldn’t mind EP1 for the PC. I played through them on 360 but didn’t buy it. I have HL2 on steam already. Steam name is Dammenion just like my PSN and 360 gamer tag.

  • Graeme

    I think Segitz said it all for me. I only really play games on my ps3, and I’m not fussed if Valve make even a great game and I can’t play it, I just won’t and as the man said, Valve won’t get my money.

    I’d have thought Valve might be interested in the ps3 simply ‘cos it’s the only unhacked system currently. That must be a major pull for a developer.

  • MPZ

    Since the market is big enough that they can choose their platform, then good luck to them.

    On the flip side are there enough games around on the ps3 that you would even notice if they never did another one?

    There’s nothing wrong with having a platform you like (why you’d like a pc is beyond me however), and then choosing what you do based upon it. By focusing on a single platform, you may be able to make a better game (since a pc isn’t really a single platform though … again why would you like it).

    e.g. would you belittle Insomniac if they stated they hated pcs?

  • John

    Gabe Newell lost all technical credibility for me when he got hacked like a n00b during the HL2 source code leak debacle.
    I mean, getting yourself a virus by opening an unidentified attachment in your mailbox? Even my grandma doesn’t do that!

  • Mine neither, that said, she’s been dead for more then two decades *batapoef*

    I’ve been a real fan of the half life series, but I must admit that ep2 is the first in the series that I didn’t finish. I got semi-stuck (aka died three or four times) when the aliens attack the rebel base. I’m too busy with GTA4 now (and many months to come) to worry about valve not liking the PS3. As said before, I think it’s a bad statement business wise, unless it’s not your business. Valve is still free to choose the platforms that they develop for.

  • As I posted on PSU:

    In short: Didn’t enjoy Half-Life on the PC, never bothered with HL2 on any platform, and am not fussed if Valve develop for PS3 or not. Plenty of other great games out there and coming soon, so no L4D is no great loss, in my personal opinion.

  • Who cares? The PS3 has enough FPS in my opinion. It’s time for some rpgs!

  • gmiga76

    It’s sad. It seems some studios have been pretty annoyed with PS3 progamming, nevertheless most of them have found a way to correctly use toolkits. Of course its harder than convernting from a PC to an X360 application.

    I am pretty sure it’s more a lack of internal know how about PS3 programming. Is source engine so hard to backport ?.

    I think soon or late they will have to reconsider their position… just a question of market share … .


  • Carl;)G

    I won’t be buying their games and games from ‘Epic’ anymore!!! :-/

  • Trieloth

    hey I agree with fleakitten MORE RPG’s, MORE RPG’s, MORE RPG’s

  • No, Darrin, I just don’t play them^^ Why would I pirate games? I can just lend them from some friends (easy as pie with Steam^^)

  • Nando Redrum

    Hyper-opinionated developer. The game sounds like crap anyway. Even if it was developed on the PS3, I most certainly would not pick it up. The same way he feels about making games for the PS3, I feel about a Resident Evil rip off game. Not worth investing my money in the game’s purchase.

  • Mike

    sporty – what is the full e-mail address of your steam account?

  • Sporty

    dammenion at yahoo dot com.

    Thanks BTW. I don’t really have anything to offer in return unless you want some 48 hour passes on XBL 😀

  • TweetTweet

    He’s a hyper-opinionated developer that we shouldn’t pay much attention to. I’m more concerned about/annoyed by companies pretending to support the PS3 with sloppy ports from the 360. They can and should learn from e.g. Criterion and how they approached the development of Burnout Paradise. Criterion even did everyone the favor of podcasting about it:

  • Pickles

    Gabe’s comments about hardware architecture are ironic considering that HL2 pauses to load every 2 minutes.

  • Mike

    Okay it was sent. Don’t worry about the XBL passes (unless they’re good well into next year), I’ve already got XBL gold until next April. I’ll add you to my friends list.

    And now… back to… PS3 stuff… :-\

  • Sporty

    Thanks, installing now 🙂

    I’ll accept and add you on PSN tomorrow when I get home.