PS3 Overtakes 360 in Cumulative Sales in Europe
Last month, there was a dispute about whether PS3 had overtaken the Xbox 360 in cumulative sales. Sony Europe exec David Reeves claimed that it had, while Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg said that this was definitely false and subsequently accused Sony of “snowing” the press. Microsoft exec Shane Kim also said that Sony’s claim was questionable.
Recently, vgchartz, a small game industry stat tracker says, that according to their data, the PS3 has been consistently outselling the 360 by 2-to-1 and has just recently overtaken the 360 in cumulative sales.
Xbox 360 has sold an average of 41,023 units per week in Europe since launching in 2005. PS3 has caught the Xbox 360 in Europe by selling an average of 83,860 units over 65 weeks of sales in Europe, a pace roughly double Xbox 360 sales but still off the pace of Wii and PS2.
Sony may be using slightly different measuring criteria, or may have prematurely jumped the gun by a few weeks, but this sounds pretty convincing.
I´m waiting for KZ2, and thats not out before feb 09 .. Now that is a loong wait 
June 18th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
See that Sony? We’re your bigest bloomin market. Now give us the Dualshock 3 or else. Grrrrrr.
June 18th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Add to that Oblivion: Shivering Isles expansion. I mean, it’s already available via the Game of the Year edition, so it’s not like there’s a language issue or PAL problem, nor is there any difficulty with it being on the store (since the expansion is available on the US store), so why have Sony failed to release it on the EU store? Pretty poor really.
June 18th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
SCEU definitely don’t deserve the sales they’re making.
On the controler front, not only is the Dualshock 3 still NOT available, but most stores have run out of SIXAXIS… this is ridiculous.
June 18th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Sony has little incentive to do anything about EU support, because people buy it no matter how much spit Sony throws upon its customers..
For example, I, cannot even download a demo in Turkey, without lying about where I live. PSN Turkey is still not opened.
We need global PSN, like Steam is global.. Of course PSN is only one aspect, DS3 is another example..
June 18th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
BTW, of course we are not in EU but Sony Turkey is part of Sony Eurasia
June 18th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
I’d be frustrated if I had trouble getting my favorite games or peripherals or downloads where I live, but I think you guys are taking this too personally. I don’t think it’s spite for customers or a hatred for certain territories or anything like that.
I think it’s just internal corporate politics, external politics and regulations, and just red tape that Sony should do a better job of cutting through.
June 19th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
stopped reading @ vgchartz.
their “data” is averaging out sales from last month, making up a number, and throwing a dart at a board
June 19th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
vgchartz samples a small number of retailers and extrapolates that to country-wide estimates.
Any more specific reason to distrust their numbers? You can argue that their sample is too small, it’s a bad sample, their methods are poor, or they are prone to error, but I don’t think it’s fair to dismiss vgchartz out of hand like that. Also, there aren’t many better options. Sure, NPD and MediaCreate have more accurate data, and when there is comparable data to use from them, I use it. But, for many stats, such as cumulative Europe sales, I don’t see any better alternative to vgchartz and their data seems roughly accurate.
June 20th, 2008 at 2:28 am
Even more, worldwide the PS3 sold more then any other platform out there even the wii
June 20th, 2008 at 4:23 am
Their data “seems” roughly accurate, because they go back and change the numbers later when they’re too far off NPD and official manufacturer releases. calling your local gamestop to estimate how a system is selling nationwide doesn’t make you an analyst. It is fair to dismiss them out of hand
June 20th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
want proof? check this out- one of the many times you’ve posted vgchartz numbers in the past
http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/07/19/ps3-outsells-360-in-na/
http://vgchartz.com/aweekly.php?date=39278
henning didn’t want to believe me that they’re full of shit. read the number hennings post, then click through to vgchartz’s page and look at the numbers that are there now. They’re entirely different becuase the asshats went back and changed them after the npds came out.
so, you can either believe that henning is unable to copy and paste a simple list of numbers, or you have to belive vgchartz is a full out scam and should be ignored.
June 20th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
“calling your local gamestop to estimate how a system is selling nationwide doesn’t make you an analyst.”
If they call one store, heck no. If they call 20 stores, then there numbers start to have some weight to them.
vgchartz openly replaces some of their homegrown data with official NPD data. This isn’t nefarious: they are open about this. NPD has better data and they know it. vgchartz should use NPD data where appropriate. Obviously, NPD is USA only (sometimes Canada), so they have to go elsewhere for non U.S. data.
Also, even in that link you cite: vghcartz clearly changed their numbers significantly, but even their original numbers were ballpark accurate and correctly picked up the general trend of a surge in PS3 sales that week before the NPD data was available.
June 22nd, 2008 at 2:26 am
So now you are posting lies, and backing them up with ’statistics’ that are known to be made up and completely dishonest. Wow.
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:12 pm
so you’re cool with posting numbers that are open to change, up to 100%? Hey, it’s yours, and your site’s reputation that is on the line, not mine.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=18919
you could just pull estimates by averaging from neogaf’s prediction posts, they’re usually just as close and aren’t published by liars who go back and edit their numbers without noting it. if accuracy and transparency isn’t important to you then I guess I just can’t help you.
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Give me some better data or give me better evidence of problems with vgchartz data and I will make a full correction and apology on the front page of this site.
Beyond that, I don’t know what else to say.