Comments on: Trophy Support in Games

by: PaxPacis

Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:32:05 +0000

For me it’s not a show stopper to buy the game, but I think with trophies it has more replay value.

(@Segitz 1080p dit not help you because Warhawk runs at 720p.. )

by: GTAstud

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:59:10 +0000

I agree with Segitz on the notion that Achievements and Trophies shouldn’t be based on how much time you put into the game, but rather certain aspects that demonstrates your abilities, or rewards the you for something unique or interesting.

If you are gonna grind something out and play a ridiculous amount of hours to get one achievement in a FPS game, you may as well just go play a MMORPG.

by: mcloki

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:11:43 +0000

Thanks Segitz. It’s not much different than unlockables in games. They’ve been around forever, but you can’t cheat to get them since it has to be downloaded. That way you know when you see a trophy you earned it.

Home unlockables are great.
Winning the stanley Cup in NHL 09 could “Trophy you ” the jersey of your choice to wear in Home.
Beating God of War 3 could get you a facial tatoo or a T-shirt that says.
I came
I saw
I kicked Olympus.

There’s tons of possiblities especially when you tie it into Home. Stuffed Chymera trophy heads to adorn the walls of your HOME apartment. Like the Predator 2 wall.
That actually would be a great trophy if it was put into every game. A skeleton for your skeleton trophy wall from each game you beat. I think it would be cool.

by: Emrah

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:54:49 +0000

Trophies surely add to the replay value of the game..

by: Segitz

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:51:14 +0000

“What if a trophy was an unlockable skin or another level or map? ”

THAT was nice… Home unlockables too!!

by: mcloki

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:37:13 +0000

Trophies are going to become more and more important as time goes on. They are very valuable to developers. Trophies in combination with DLC keep the game you purchase in your hands for a lot longer. It cuts down on the resale market and increases the amount of new games purchased. I personally have yet to sell/trade in a PS3 game yet. And I attribute that to the trophy system. I have restarted playing Uncharted and SSHD because of Trophies and am thinking about getting back into Warhawk. Games that I know are not going to get trophies I may trade in. Trade in for Disgea 3 and LBP, maybe Resistance.
Just like online high score boards give you bragging rights in your circle of friends. Trophies as they become more available will spawn “Achievment Whores” to use the 360 term. All for bragging rights.
Will it affect my buying decision. Yes. Jst the fact that we are having this discussion means that all of the above players are going to consider the Trophies in a game. I’m sure that in 3-4 Months Tosh will have articles about Trophies lists in FFXIII. And this will affect your desire for the game.
On the 360 side for example Gears of War 2 has an achivement called “Seriously” for killing 100,000 opponents. While I believe it should be called “40 Year Old Virgin” it generates a ton of press and ‘watercooler talk”. This is great for developers because it keeps their games being talked about.
What if a trophy was an unlockable skin or another level or map?

by: Henning

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:34:58 +0000

Trophies have no impact on my buying decision. But I like getting trophies while playing a game. It’s like a little pat on the back. That said, I usually don’t go out of my way to get them, though sometimes that’s fun for a hoot.

by: mpz

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:40:45 +0000

Trophies have absolutely zero impact on whether I would buy a game or not. Zero.

I’ll ping a few off if they’re there, and maybe play the game a little bit more (maybe), but wouldn’t even notice if they weren’t.

by: Solid_Nat

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:35:53 +0000

I love trophies i cant deny it and Warhawk has me hooked at the moment trying to earn them. Some are stupid and as mentioned require you to have no life and play the game 24/7 for weeks even months to achieve some! I wouldn’t not buy a game simply because it didn’t support trophies its the experience and fun with friends i am buying into not an icon or a level.

Others however do make you play the game differently or try something you wouldnt have done before so i think from that angle they are good. For example i have SS:HD, i played it a lot but never got past the first or second planet. When the trophies hit i played it a lot more and actually compleated the game. Something i probably wouldnt have bothered to do without an incentive like trophies.

Saying that i have found that if i play a game for a trophy etc then it isnt as much fun and i get more frustrated. So for me i am going to play the game through, check what i got and then play it again to try and get all the trophies on offer. Give it a few months and every game will have these and having level 5 etc wont mean all that much as it does now!

by: Pc

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:24:35 +0000

Just like you said, if the game is good, then i will buy it anyways. But…..Every game from here on out should have trophies when you purchase it, not later on through a stupid patch.