JimmyStewart: Focus on the future then!

How can one focus on the future without learning from the past, even if that learning is from the competition?

The stats for example are meaningless because they’re only used to convey things about this generation of consoles. First, take sales. Think of the sheer dominance of the PS2 last round and the less impressive numbers on the XBox 1. What did that mean for this round? What about the Gamecube numbers vs the Wii. It’s just not relevant when looking at the future, it’s only relevant with this generation.

This generation’s sales need to be high enough to have a possible revenue for the next system. That’s why Dreamcast never had a successor because that system flopped, losing tons of revenue and lost any chance for redeeming itself for the next console. PS3 was heading down that same path until the Slim was released, turning around the sales when they needed it most. If they let the sales falter and they never had that turnaround (due to a price cut and a new system design), they would have abandoned the PlayStation brand after this generation finished up.

f your point about future proofing with HDMI was that 1.2 doesn’t count, and that 1.3 is the wave of the future… Then what does the new 1.4 mean? Sony just lost that future proofing advantage didn’t they? And why do we care what this generation has for HDMI support, wasn’t this article about paving the way for the next console? Won’t both companies update their HDMI for those consoles? What does this have to do with future proofing anything?

v1.3 adds a lot more functionality than v1.2. Yeah, 1.4 is coming out so the PS3 isn’t that far ahead, but at least with them having v1.3, they’ve got an advantage with HD audio and other advantages. My point with this was that the PS3 took what was best available at the time and implemented it into their system. Since the 360 used a standard DVD drive, though, v1.3 HDMI would have been pointless anyway. Microsoft could learn some things from Sony, too.

The HDD, again this is very fan boyish stuff here. All I said was that if you’re giving Sony props for having an “easily replaceable” hard drive, it’s worth noting how much easier it is to replace on the 360. It’s not to say the 360 is better or ideal, just that pushing that button and popping off your HDD is a ton easier than swapping a drive on the PS3. And once again, what on Earth does this have to do with the future? Surely the next generation will build on this, just like the current generation build on the last gen.

I know it’s easier to replace the 360 HDD, but you’re stuck with what they give you. What I meant in my article was it’s easier to replace to high capacity HDDs if that helps you understand any better. And yeah, they will undoubtedly build upon it next gen. They’d be stupid not to. Then again, Microsoft made a mistake of their own by making the HDD optional this gen as opposed to mandatory. What this shows for the future is that it’s a very, very good idea to have memory stored in, and with an upgradeable HDD without a mandatory, sealed enclosure (only way an enclosure would work is if it resembled that of the 360′s but has tabs to open the cover of the enclosure and easily pop in a replacement).

And finally, about the XBox 1 having better technology. You cleverly loop this back into a focus on reliability. “On paper, it had the better technology, but the reliability issues of that console was questionable as well. I still have a PS2 fatty that works just fine.”
But then respond a few posts down with… “I agree, the PS2 had a pretty large failure rate, but it was nowhere near as bad as the 360 failure rate.”
Wha? And that’s what’s wrong with all this reliability stuff, it only matters individually. You had a problem with an XBox 1 and that translates to it being “reliability issues”.

The PS2 had a relatively bad failure rate, as did XBox 1, but the PS2′s failure rate is nowhere near the 360s. XBox 1′s failure rate was probably but a few points higher than the PS2′s but not much of a difference, i’ll admit that, but at least Sony improved their hardware when they got into this generation instead of making it worse! In relation to this article, if Sony keeps their hardware development in top shape, then we’re looking at next gen’s Sony system to have a sub-10% failure rate. Microsoft, IDK. If they want to do some good next gen, hopefully they’ll learn that they need more testing before they try to hit the market first.

You had a GREAT idea for an article I was REALLY excited to read. I still wish I could read that article. I guess it’s my fault. I keep coming to this site to be excited about my PS3… and instead I keep seeing a bunch of trash talked about the other consoles I play. I must mistype the website… I keep trying to find a blog about the PS3 and instead I keep finding the one that’s about how terrible Microsoft is. Hmmm…

No one is forcing you to come here. You don’t have too many fans either because almost every time you come here, you complain about something. I’m sorry the site isn’t EverySystemIsEqualBlog.net. You come to a PS3 site, you’re going to get articles that are a bit biased in areas (at least with my article, I gave Microsoft some credit, and as much as it deserved, too). If you want articles that are the way you want them to be, then the internet won’t have any available because everyone has a biased opinion on something.

Sorry, but every time I get a Microsoft console, it takes a shit on me. Why would I say a lot of positive shit on that? Sure, it’s got a handful of good games, some OK ones, but nothing to get overly excited for. The hardware itself is crap, though. You seem to come here and want everyone to either say that the 360 is just as good, if not, better than the PS3, but that’s just not the case!

to all the xbots ,

i hav to say..what are yo doing here

and ps3 has alread won…..by far…miles and miles even in the hearts and minds of gamers everywhere

were scorning that microsoft paid a few jap developers for games…but sony has s many games developers under their belt, i think they couldn’t care less…..peace out….and get urself a ps3…..its like owning a bmw compared to owning a ford,…the ford still gets you to the shops… but come on……..u need that air-conditioning and leather seats,…… DONT YOU

You’ve taken a bunch of fanboy stats to try and consistently paint your console in the better light… and then you say it’s an article about the future. Focus on the future then! If you can’t manage to make an interesting article about your favorite console without trashing the competition than maybe you should rethink the article… and for that matter, maybe even the console you’re using! Hell, the Wii is my least favorite console and I could muster up an article on my hopes for the next one! And I could do it without trashing the PS3 or 360. There’s no need for it, at all.

The stats for example are meaningless because they’re only used to convey things about this generation of consoles. First, take sales. Think of the sheer dominance of the PS2 last round and the less impressive numbers on the XBox 1. What did that mean for this round? What about the Gamecube numbers vs the Wii. It’s just not relevant when looking at the future, it’s only relevant with this generation.

The same is said about using Metacritics stats. They’ll say exactly what you want them to say. For example you say the PS3 has the highest scores out of all the consoles. I’m not sure where this was sourced, but I do know it had the highest scores for 2009. Every year prior it’s been the 360, so the opposite stance would be that it’s had the best games for one year out of the past four. Also, those same stats show that the 360 had more games rated above 75. That would mean the the PS3 has more games that are rated well… but that the 360 has the most games rated the best.

And since you took the time to respond to my initial post, I’ll do the same. It’s missing the point a bit, but I just feel it would be polite as this is obviously an issue you take dearly.

If your point about future proofing with HDMI was that 1.2 doesn’t count, and that 1.3 is the wave of the future… Then what does the new 1.4 mean? Sony just lost that future proofing advantage didn’t they? And why do we care what this generation has for HDMI support, wasn’t this article about paving the way for the next console? Won’t both companies update their HDMI for those consoles? What does this have to do with future proofing anything?

Sure the Cell might be in a PS4, without seeing the future we have no way to tell. The point is simply that we don’t know if it will be included at all and recent evidence at Sony would lead one to believe they’re leaning away from the process. It’s certainly not the best example for the point you’re trying to make.

The HDD, again this is very fan boyish stuff here. All I said was that if you’re giving Sony props for having an “easily replaceable” hard drive, it’s worth noting how much easier it is to replace on the 360. It’s not to say the 360 is better or ideal, just that pushing that button and popping off your HDD is a ton easier than swapping a drive on the PS3. And once again, what on Earth does this have to do with the future? Surely the next generation will build on this, just like the current generation build on the last gen.

And finally, about the XBox 1 having better technology. You cleverly loop this back into a focus on reliability. “On paper, it had the better technology, but the reliability issues of that console was questionable as well. I still have a PS2 fatty that works just fine.”
But then respond a few posts down with… “I agree, the PS2 had a pretty large failure rate, but it was nowhere near as bad as the 360 failure rate.”
Wha? And that’s what’s wrong with all this reliability stuff, it only matters individually. You had a problem with an XBox 1 and that translates to it being “reliability issues”.

But most importantly, what I’m trying to cement is after all of the fan boy back and forth about how much better you feel the PS3 is, and how much better you feel the PS2 is… the point I am trying to make is all of that debate is of absolutely NO indication for what the PS4 will bring. You had a GREAT idea for an article I was REALLY excited to read. I still wish I could read that article. I guess it’s my fault. I keep coming to this site to be excited about my PS3… and instead I keep seeing a bunch of trash talked about the other consoles I play. I must mistype the website… I keep trying to find a blog about the PS3 and instead I keep finding the one that’s about how terrible Microsoft is. Hmmm…