2K Admits PS3 Version of Mafia II Inferior to High End PC Version


EDIT: 2K Games did not say the PS3 version is inferior to the 360 version. Although, the grass rendering is obviously inferior.

2K Games has admitted on its official forums that the PlayStation 3 version of Mafia II will be inferior as compared to the Xbox 360 and PC version of the game.

Responding to fans criticism over the lack of grass details, large pools of blood and less-visible cloth movement as compared to others on the recently released demo, 2K’s senior manager of interactive marketing Elizabeth Tobey says:
See what he says after the jump

“When designing Mafia II, we optimized for each of the three different systems the game would run on to make sure the core experience was the best it could be. Because of this, there are some differences from one platform to the next. In terms of the PS3 version, I wanted to clarify a couple points you have been asking about: There will not be highly detailed grass or large pools of blood, the cloth movement is less noticeable than, for example, the PC version, and the visual fidelity in the demo is generally representative of what you’ll see in the full game.”

Our aim is to make a cohesive and immersive experience and optimize the game for each platform so that it could run its best. And while there are some differences between each version, I’m sure you’ll find that the core gameplay and the heart of Mafia II remains no matter whether you play on PS3, 360, or PC.

Mafia II will be released on the PS3, Xbox 360 and PC on 24th August.


Written by: Ace - News Contributor


  1. #1 by Mike on August 17th, 2010

    I’m going to wait until I build a new PC next year to make use of the PhysX stuff. The game will be $20 by then. Don’t see the point in paying full price for an admittedly inferior version.

  2. #2 by Derrickgott007 on August 17th, 2010

    In otherwords they are LAZY developers who don’t know crap about the PS3 Architecture. Not going to buy this game now thanks to 2k EXCUSE to why the ps3 version is inferior even though it’s on the most powerful console.

    Hey 2gay, er 2k, Sony gives out FREE tools to make good ps3 games but no, you choose to lead on the pc to port to 360 and then half ass the ps3 version? FAIL!

    You do not get my money, I’ll buy GT5 instead.

  3. #3 by Oly1Kenobi on August 18th, 2010 [ 132235 Points ]

    What a bunch of morons… PS3 versions have the availability to be way better than the x-box version..
    I agree major fail for 2k

  4. #4 by SL33PY on August 18th, 2010

    hence why I’ll buy it for PC

  5. #5 by Gibb on August 18th, 2010 [ 2415 Points ]

    I don’t think this will bother me much when playing the game.

    But still.. again a bad decision regarding dev platform from 2K.

    Now they admitted it, maybe they should cut the price for the PS3 version ;-)

  6. #6 by Luke on August 18th, 2010

    Wow, this totally blows. Thought SONY and them were trying to build a better partnership. They have exclusive content coming up… or is it to make up for the lack of detail within the game?

  7. #7 by Derrickgott007 on August 18th, 2010

    Everyone needs to boycott 2k studios to show this crap is unacceptable 5 years into ps3 lifecycle.

  8. #8 by Sinlock on August 18th, 2010

    What idiot authorized this post?
    Hey boss I’m going to put a post on the site that will likely encourage PS3 owners to not buy our product due to a lack of effort of the development team…. What do you think?
    ” That’s a great idea Bob! Stop standing there and get it up on the site ASAP!”

  9. #9 by Darrin on August 18th, 2010 [ 17143 Points ]

    They said it’s less detailed than the PC version… Duh…

    Did they say it’s inferior to the 360 version? Or are we just completely making that up?

  10. #10 by Anonymous on August 18th, 2010

    I lol’d at this statement. The game’s demo was a failure anyway, the only people buying it will be the unsuspecting people who haven’t tried the demo thinking it’ll be like GTA4, clueless parents for their children, and lonely people who want to collect the softcore porn magizines.

    I actually had some expectations for this game, but recently it’s nailed it’s own coffin and is digging itself into a deeper hole by the day.

    Just my 2 pence.

  11. #11 by Jay on August 18th, 2010 [ 83111 Points ]

    watch the video, its pretty obvious with the grass (as that was really the only noticeable difference I saw). But that shouldn’t detract from the gameplay, though. I’ll most likely still be picking it up

  12. #12 by Anonymous on August 18th, 2010

    Just thought i’d add that i’ll still be renting it, but they’ve really blown their chances of modernising the franchise.

    Hopefully their is still some gameplay away from the whole “we have naked pic. collectables” and the dated feel of the controls (the cars seem fine) and dumbness of the AI as i’ve seem them running into walls and themselves.

    An extra 2 pence.

  13. #13 by Derrickgott007 on August 18th, 2010

    Try shooting while driving. Can’t be done. But the cops can. No blood pooling by bodies like on 360 version, grass is crap, screen tears like crazy, fabric doesn’t move. All this equals no sale for me.

  14. #14 by Luke on August 18th, 2010 [ 27382 Points ]

    You can tell that the PC version kills them both, but I couldn’t tell the difference between the PS3 and the Xbox until I saw the grass.

    I haven’t done enough digging but Derrickgotto007 noted some interesting points

  15. #15 by Oly1Kenobi on August 18th, 2010 [ 132235 Points ]

    strikethru on the xbox 360.. have they updated info?

  16. #16 by PS3ForFree on August 18th, 2010

    Who on earth complained about such petty things, this is why it takes graphic teams two days to get a character to walk across a room, because some idiots complain that the grass isn’t as high fidelity as it should be, and that the pools of blood aren’t big enough.

    Besides, it’s always going to be inferior to a high end PC, because the high end PC has a better graphics card.

  17. #17 by Derrickgott007 on August 18th, 2010

    Granted there are some good qualitys in this game, the lack of effort towards the ps3 version really chaps my hide. I like the cars set on simulation mode and the bullet hits on enemies but the rest of the shortcuts pull me out of the game. Oblivion did better than the 360 version so it’s not the hardware it’s the developer.

    “bu bu but the ps3 is hard to develop for!” is not a valid excuse when the MAKER and DESIGNERS of the ps3 offer to send people to show you how to optimize for the ps3 for free and offer tool sets for the ps3 for FREE so you won’t make substandard multiplatfom games.

  18. #18 by iRonBiLL on August 18th, 2010

    WOW!! I can’t believe the blow back people are giving 2K Games over differences in rendering. Clearly their are huge amounts of memory being pushed to hold all items on screen at the same time… lets just admit their are reasonable threshholds of performance to deal with and while the PS3 is awesome, it’s not God in a box. High performances PC’s easily stomp memory sizes and cpu processing speeds of PS3′s and Xbox’s… that’s why they are called High performance PC’s!!! Stop being spoiled all your life and enjoy what you have!! I’m sure the game is going to be just fine… they did wait an extra year for testing and debugging so stop crying already… that’s more work than you’ll get out of most programmers today!!

  19. #19 by LOKO117 on August 18th, 2010 [ 2940 Points ]

    While I agree it’s lame that they didn’t get the PS3′s version quite up to snuff with the others, the only thing I saw that was different was the grass. That doesn’t seem to be such a big deal when you take in the entire scope of the game. I’m still excited and will be pre-ordering later today.

    I’d also like to point out that the only thing anyone has experienced has been the demo version of the game. And if i’m not mistaken it’s the same demo they showed and let people play at E3 months ago. I’d like to think 2K has spent the time between then and now to polish the final product rather than fix any small problems in a demo (in response to Derrickgott007′s claims)

  20. #20 by Derrickgott007 on August 18th, 2010

    Did you read what 2k wrote at all look?

    “and the visual fidelity in the demo is generally representative of what you’ll see in the full game.”-2k games

  21. #21 by Derrickgott007 on August 18th, 2010

    @ps3forfree. The ps3 version should not be inferior to the 360 (which it is) . The 360 got grass and blood, why not ps3? Because the developers were unskilled at ps3 programming. That’s all it is. Many developers say it’s easier to develop on ps3 as lead and then port to 360. But 2k failed at that task.

  22. #22 by Oly1Kenobi on August 18th, 2010 [ 132235 Points ]

    “That doesn’t seem to be such a big deal when you take in the entire scope of the game. I’m still excited and will be pre-ordering later today.”

    I agree, not that big of a deal, but I don’t think I’ll be getting it..

  23. #23 by Derrickgott007 on August 18th, 2010

    “And while there are some differences between each version, I’m sure you’ll find that the core gameplay and the heart of Mafia II remains no matter whether you play on”—–

    Dumbest statement ever made to cover their fail.

    If I eat some pizza and then crap it out, I bet you can find some of the core elements of the pizza in my poop, but I bet it sure as he’ll doesn’t taste like pizza anymore.

    Didn’t any developers learn after the cluster fu&$ that was Ghostbusters on ps3? Skimp on our console and we’ll skimp on your sales.

  24. #24 by Ace on August 18th, 2010 [ 23465 Points ]

    Liking all of the feedback guys! Very good points.

  25. #25 by Luke on August 18th, 2010 [ 27382 Points ]

    Look what you started Ace! I love it how he’s about to take it to the streets! Go get ‘em!

  26. #26 by Derrickgott007 on August 18th, 2010

    I’m just tired of developers half assing their games on the ps3.

  27. #27 by Emrah on August 18th, 2010 [ 7319 Points ]

    Derrick, it is just that RSX is a half assed gfx card that needs serious backing up by the cell, and you can’t ask that to every developer. Xenos has a very good design, and its unified architecture means its cycles are fully utilized based on the workload (even per scene, not game). Kane and Lynch has Xbox with a clear advantage even it has more shaders (SSAO).. I blame Nvidia for it..

  28. #28 by UbeRamza on August 18th, 2010 [ 915 Points ]

    I’ll pass on it now. By the time I get done building my gaming rig it won’t be worth playing anyway.

  29. #29 by LOKO117 on August 18th, 2010 [ 2940 Points ]

    @Derrick, I was referring to the screen tears and such you were talking about. I really don’t think the graphics are all that different between all three. Besides the grass and fabric as already pointed out, the rest seems solid.

  30. #30 by LOKO117 on August 18th, 2010 [ 2940 Points ]

    It appears there is conspiracy talk over this topic on the internet. I’ve found a video of someone with access to the preview version of the final game given to game reviewing websites and such.

    Now I don’t understand the language but you can gather that the video shown is in-game footage of that preview version running on a PS3 and the grass is rendered as it is in the 360 and PC versions
    Link: http://www.gamekings.tv/videos/preview-boris-blikt-vooruit-op-mafia-ii/

    Also I read on the 2K forums, a smaller studio that worked on the project came out and said that the PS3 version will have the rendered grass and screen tearing gone.

    Discuss

  31. #31 by Jay on August 18th, 2010 [ 83111 Points ]

    how do you know its from the PS3 version? If all that is true, then the complaints made are pretty pointless and hold no water now lol

  32. #32 by LOKO117 on August 18th, 2010 [ 2940 Points ]

    There is one point in the video where the guy is saying “it’ll come out for PC, 360, and PS3″ and then he makes a statement with a tone and body language to say “as you are seeing there” (in regards to PS3) but I guess we won’t know til it comes out. I’ll have it Day 1 so I’ll let you guys know

  33. #33 by Jonaskin on August 19th, 2010

    I never even tried the original Mafia so I was never remotely interested in the sequel anyway. It just screamed “C Grade GTA clone” to me along the lines of the True Crime series. Was it even any good? I don’t think I even know what platforms it was on, how long ago it came out, and frankly can’t even be bothered hitting Wikipedia to find out.

  34. #34 by premiersoupir on August 19th, 2010 [ 17020 Points ]

    apparently the game delivers historical popular cultural artifacts (in the form of playboy centerfolds). http://kotaku.com/5617072/video-game-tracks-how-long-you-stare-at-playboy
    my question: are these bushes rendered at a lower resolution on the ps3 as well?

  35. #35 by Jay on August 19th, 2010 [ 83111 Points ]

    premiersoupir: my question: are these bushes rendered at a lower resolution on the ps3 as well?

    lmfao

  36. #36 by Oliver Smith on August 20th, 2010 [ 700 Points ]

    nice video :D

  37. #37 by fOAX on August 24th, 2010

    f-ck the console versions of this game. The demo runs perfectly fine on my PC with maxed graphics. If you experience screen-tearing, force on vertical sync.
    My first impressions of the game are azuuuuumeee.


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