Comments on: Microsoft Taking Over Sony from the Inside? http://www.ps3blog.net/2011/09/15/microsoft-taking-over-sony-from-the-inside/ Fri, 24 May 2013 19:51:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Darrin http://www.ps3blog.net/2011/09/15/microsoft-taking-over-sony-from-the-inside/#comment-325012 Darrin Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:20:55 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/?p=51242#comment-325012 <a href='http://www.ps3blog.net/members/blackstaffer/' rel="nofollow">@Blackstaffer</a>, Almost all Google and Amazon products and platforms give developers highly flexible language and IDE choices. If you want to build a Google AppEngine app, you can use Python along with any IDE you choose, a huge range of JVM language/IDE options, or Google's own Go language. This isn't some pie in the sky waste of resources complexity nightmare, it's a great design. Secondly, of course they should make the PlayStation Suite easy to work with for developers. What is outrageous is that you equate developer friendly with being 100% Microsoft. I disagree. This might shock you, might every developer is not a Microsoft fanatic, does not prefer to use all Microsoft tools, and actually does like some say into what tools they do use. @Blackstaffer,

Almost all Google and Amazon products and platforms give developers highly flexible language and IDE choices. If you want to build a Google AppEngine app, you can use Python along with any IDE you choose, a huge range of JVM language/IDE options, or Google’s own Go language. This isn’t some pie in the sky waste of resources complexity nightmare, it’s a great design.

Secondly, of course they should make the PlayStation Suite easy to work with for developers. What is outrageous is that you equate developer friendly with being 100% Microsoft. I disagree. This might shock you, might every developer is not a Microsoft fanatic, does not prefer to use all Microsoft tools, and actually does like some say into what tools they do use.

]]> By: Blackstaffer http://www.ps3blog.net/2011/09/15/microsoft-taking-over-sony-from-the-inside/#comment-322576 Blackstaffer Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:08:34 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/?p=51242#comment-322576 I'm with Tucker on this one. I've used Visual Studio extensively, and it's decent. There's nothing wrong with C#. I've used that too. To claim Java is better is fanboy nonsense. I've used Java too. (I've also used Eclipse extensively, which I utterly despise, but to each their own.) I now use Objective C and Xcode every day, and they're decent too. To start quibbling about minor differences between modern programming languages and IDE's is pointless. They all work, they all get the job done, and none of them is significantly better than any other. There is <strong>NOTHING</strong> wrong with choosing one platform and going with it. I would go further and say there's <strong>EVERYTHING</strong> right about it. Giving developers the flexibility to choose their own languages and IDE's in which to develop software for a given platform, while noble in a pie-in-the-sky kind of sense, <strong>greatly</strong> increases the amount of work required to support that ecosystem. It's a stupid waste of resources. What would be a mistake is to pick a language nobody knows (Scala? what the heck?), and IDE that's uncommon, and foist that on a bunch of developers that might just decide to go elsewhere instead. Mandating a technology stack that is well known and that people are experienced with gives developers one more incentive to develop software for the platform. And please don't try to quote Xcode/ObjC to me as a counter-argument. Everyone knows why people bothered to learn that stack. Frankly, Sony has a hard sell to get devs to develop for PlayStation Suite. It behooves Sony to make it as easy as possible for developers to do so. And like it or not, using Microsoft dev tools is a great choice for that reason alone. I’m with Tucker on this one. I’ve used Visual Studio extensively, and it’s decent. There’s nothing wrong with C#. I’ve used that too. To claim Java is better is fanboy nonsense. I’ve used Java too. (I’ve also used Eclipse extensively, which I utterly despise, but to each their own.) I now use Objective C and Xcode every day, and they’re decent too. To start quibbling about minor differences between modern programming languages and IDE’s is pointless. They all work, they all get the job done, and none of them is significantly better than any other.

There is NOTHING wrong with choosing one platform and going with it. I would go further and say there’s EVERYTHING right about it. Giving developers the flexibility to choose their own languages and IDE’s in which to develop software for a given platform, while noble in a pie-in-the-sky kind of sense, greatly increases the amount of work required to support that ecosystem. It’s a stupid waste of resources.

What would be a mistake is to pick a language nobody knows (Scala? what the heck?), and IDE that’s uncommon, and foist that on a bunch of developers that might just decide to go elsewhere instead. Mandating a technology stack that is well known and that people are experienced with gives developers one more incentive to develop software for the platform. And please don’t try to quote Xcode/ObjC to me as a counter-argument. Everyone knows why people bothered to learn that stack.

Frankly, Sony has a hard sell to get devs to develop for PlayStation Suite. It behooves Sony to make it as easy as possible for developers to do so. And like it or not, using Microsoft dev tools is a great choice for that reason alone.

]]> By: Nikazio http://www.ps3blog.net/2011/09/15/microsoft-taking-over-sony-from-the-inside/#comment-322566 Nikazio Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:52:05 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/?p=51242#comment-322566 I wouldn't be surprised if Apple took over the gaming industry over the next 10-15 years and Sony is smaller than Microsoft (not to mention Xbox still outsells PS3, at least for now) so i think if someone will fall that would be Sony… or PlayStation at least, so i don’t think a Microsoft/Sony console would be a bad idea for the next gen. I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple took over the gaming industry over the next 10-15 years and Sony is smaller than Microsoft (not to mention Xbox still outsells PS3, at least for now) so i think if someone will fall that would be Sony… or PlayStation at least, so i don’t think a Microsoft/Sony console would be a bad idea for the next gen.

]]> By: Nikazio http://www.ps3blog.net/2011/09/15/microsoft-taking-over-sony-from-the-inside/#comment-322564 Nikazio Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:46:56 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/?p=51242#comment-322564 I would be surprised if Apple took over the gaming industry over the next 10-15 years and Sony is smaller than Microsoft (not to mention Xbox still outsells PS3 at least for now) so i think if someone will fall that would be Sony... or PlayStation at least, so i don't think a Microsoft/Sony console would be a bad idea for the next gen. I would be surprised if Apple took over the gaming industry over the next 10-15 years and Sony is smaller than Microsoft (not to mention Xbox still outsells PS3 at least for now) so i think if someone will fall that would be Sony… or PlayStation at least, so i don’t think a Microsoft/Sony console would be a bad idea for the next gen.

]]> By: wolfkin http://www.ps3blog.net/2011/09/15/microsoft-taking-over-sony-from-the-inside/#comment-322524 wolfkin Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:46:56 +0000 http://www.ps3blog.net/?p=51242#comment-322524 disappointing to hear disappointing to hear

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